If you have an interest, email me, and I will have someone send you the source of info on the product and the it's testimonials and double blind university tests.

Because I don't have the problem, and don't use the product, I can't say one way or the other re it's value, but if I did hurt I would give it a try.

Sorry about what may seem like a commercial, but picking pain ain't no fun!

[This message was edited by ed packard on 02 December 2002 at 06:26 PM.]

In 78, I had a right wrist joint socket broken pretty badly.

Some years after that, was visited an old "millionaire farmer" I'd known since childhood. He was applying a honeybee sting to one of his knees. Said it was the only thing he'd found that relieved it.

I tried it on my wrist, which had started to bother me in cold weather, and didn't have a problem for more then three years. Did it once again, and it lasted for more than 5. Haven't had a problem since. Seems the body's response to the venom helps quell arthritis.

Regrowing cartilidge is no secret anymore.

Chicken Gelatin. ( ground up cartilidge). Take it for more than a month. I suppose there's that " pain free condroitin" etc, but it's basically ground up chicken cartilidge. I blew out my right knee jumping up and down on a dump truck tongue, and couldn't kneel it hurt so bad. It went on for a couple years. Three weeks of gelatin caps, and it hasn't hurt since. Neither has the wrist.

Come to Jubitz this week end and I will rub on you, a magnet that is.

Also try MSM or CMO for joints, many companies make this product. Many have had success with them.

I have not had any joint pain in the five or six years I've known him, or I'd certainly have given him a call. He's one of the friendliest and "non agressive" people I know.

I think that the Bee and/or Chicken industry out does Nikken about a thousand to one.

A Gazillion chickens can't be wrong.

Seriously though, I have yet to find *one* person that could explain how magnetic fields contained in wrist or waist packs work. Not a one. I thought magnetic fields given off by overhead power lines was a "scourge" to those around them. It might indeed work. I just hesitate to try something in which the preponderance of "evidence" is closer to "group belief", or could be just as easily attained by wrapping an area with saran wrap or duct tape to increase blood flow.

Bee stings and Chicken cartilidge completely normalized my arthritic wrist joint and knee. They made any discomfort disappear for years at a time, and currently, it's been 6 years since I thought of either one. In the case of cartilidge, it is the glucosamine compounds that actually "feed" damaged cartilidge. In the Bee venom case, it seems to be the bodys' immune response triggered by the acetic acid in the localized area that heals. Both pretty simple, and well proved out.

Why do I feel a "Lock" looming for this one?

I'm headed over to see Doug and Renegade. Maybe I'll see you there. I guess Wes B is coming out later in the week. We might set up a "Wall of Steel Guitar". Depends on how much I have to work during the days this week.

EJL

[This message was edited by Eric West on 03 December 2002 at 10:01 AM.]

This thing sounds like the AMWAY bit to me, ..but if I hurt enough all that would not stop a free try.

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Ernie

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[This message was edited by Ernie Renn on 03 December 2002 at 07:53 AM.]

I had the water here analyzed, ..I drink bottled water ever since. Very few folk seem to drink the recomended 8 glasses a day, but it sounds like a good idea to me.

A picker friend just called me, ..it seems that he is taking the Reliv stuff for the past month, ..not much for the arthritis yet, but claims that it has lowered his blood pressure. Not trying to speed pick might help with blood pressure.

It won't help Carpal Tunnel, but I sure haven't had problems with the joint in my right wrist that has a broken and healed socket.

I'm thinking of raising more chickens, and selling franchises, or loaning a hundred chickens to anyone wanting to get in on the ground floor...

$500 for a years supply. COD COB. ( Chickens On Board.)

The required Grind-a-Chicken (tm) "extractor" of course, will be extra.

I'm having the prototype jobbed out to Carbon Fiber Technologies in Taiwan. Looks to have superior resonance properties...

EJL

[This message was edited by Eric West on 03 December 2002 at 11:29 AM.]

But check a back issue of Consumers Report at your library, issue of January, 2002, article titled "Joint Remedies." They tested 19 brands of Glucosamine (made from shellfish shells) and Chondroitin (made from cow cartilage)for the treatment of osteoarthritis. The manufacturers of the products claim that they slow the deterioration of cartilage and may even promote the growth of new cartilage. Veterinarians have long used both supplements for treatment of osteoarthritis in animals.

The article cites several extensive studies that have been done on these supplements, including 15 European studies reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association, which concluded that "it seems probable that these compounds do have some efficacy in treating osteoarthritis symptoms." Testing carried out by the independent researchers at Consumers Report also concluded "our medical consultants say there's enough evidence to conclude that products containing the amounts of glucosamine, chondroitin, or both that worked in the clinical trials [3 pills daily]might be worth trying for people with osteoarthritis..."

The CR researchers found that several brands did not actually contain the amount of glucosamine or chondroitin claimed on the label, but recommended two brands in particular: Puritan's Pride Maximum Strength Glucosamine-Chondroitin and Spring Valley Glucosamine-Chondroitin Double Strength). The latter is sold at Wal-Mart for around $30 for 240 tablets.