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Bob Doran
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From: Ames, Iowa, USA

posted 24 October 2003 10:51 PM     profile     
What are some great albums of old cowboy songs, or great cowboy bands, new and old.
Preferably with good PSG of course.
Thanks
Bob
Bob Blair
Member

From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

posted 25 October 2003 08:41 AM     profile     
The Sons of the Pioneers. Listened to them incessantly from about ages six to ten.

More recently Ian Tyson has produced a lot of serious cowboy music. There were always some cowboy songs sprinkled in the old Ian and Sylvia albums. In the early 80's, Ian did an album called "Old Corrals and Sagebrush" (Jeff Bradshaw on steel if I remember correctly) and a string of cd's followed. "Cowboyography" ( a masterpeice from the later 80's, with Stan Stewart on steel), "I Outgrew the Wagon" and some others. A lot of good stuff, and a lot of it seriously cowboy.

Larry Bell
Member

From: Englewood, Florida

posted 25 October 2003 09:08 AM     profile     
For more recent (and more available) authentic cowboy music, check out Riders in the Sky . Ranger Doug and the boys are the real deal -- or as close to it as you're gonna find in a contemporary group.

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2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps

Rex Thomas
Member

From: Thompson's Station, TN

posted 25 October 2003 09:23 AM     profile     
Can't leave these guys out: http://thesons.com/
My favorite CD by Sons of the San Joaquin is "Songs of the Silver Screen". Worth checking out, IMHO. Mighty fine steel work by Sonny Garrish on there.

[This message was edited by Rex Thomas on 25 October 2003 at 09:30 AM.]

Tony Palmer
Member

From: Lincoln, RI USA

posted 25 October 2003 10:27 AM     profile     
Michael Martin Murphy, for sure.
Updated, yet authentic versions of Red River Valley, Tumbling Tumbleweeds, Yellow Rose of Texas, etc. Not much steel, but plenty of accordian!
Bob Doran
Member

From: Ames, Iowa, USA

posted 25 October 2003 10:56 AM     profile     
OK great. Keep those band names coming!
Now i want to know what the greatest cowboy song ever written was.
This is of course opinion only.
we'll see which song wings.
My vote: Marty Robbins "Big Iron"
Bob
Duane Becker
Member

From: Elk,Wa 99009 USA

posted 25 October 2003 11:31 AM     profile     
You should check out Wylie and the Wild West. wylieww.com Wylie records in Nashville and brings back some of the good ole cowboy songs, and not only is he a nice guy, he is a real working cowboy. I played steel on his albums. I used non-pedal Fender steels, and Sho-Bud pedal steels. Duane Becker
Rex Thomas
Member

From: Thompson's Station, TN

posted 25 October 2003 12:08 PM     profile     
I'll play. (Possible this thread will get moved to 'music').
Yeah, I'll vote for "Big Iron" with "El Paso" a close 2nd. Tell you what though, probably not well known, but a song called "The Bandit" off of the above mentioned SOTSJ CD is my all time favorite cowboy song. And trying to keep steel in the picture, Sonny's playing on that CD is so tasteful & enjoyable.

[This message was edited by Rex Thomas on 25 October 2003 at 12:09 PM.]

Ray Montee
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From: Portland, OR, USA

posted 26 October 2003 02:32 PM     profile     
I believe it was Gene Autry that did this one: "Ridin' the Range forever 'cause Some Dirty, Low Down Dog, Put Glue on my saddle"
Ron Whitfield
Member

From: Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA

posted 26 October 2003 03:16 PM     profile     
Anything by Roy Rogers. He wasn't 'The King of the Cowboys' for nothing! Plus, he loved steel guitar and Joaquin Murphey. He should have been allowed to live in his prime forever.
John Steele
Member

From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada

posted 26 October 2003 04:36 PM     profile     
My favourite cowboy song was sung by Daffy Duck, and it went like this:


I can't get along little dogie,
I can't even get one that's short...


-John

R. L. Jones
Member

From: Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA

posted 26 October 2003 06:26 PM     profile     
I think the greatest Cowboy song written,, song by Thorpe , written on a trail drive fron New Mexico to Texas .
Little Joe the wrangler.. been sang by any one that sang cowboy songs

R. L.

Blake Hawkins
Member

From: Land O'Lakes, Florida

posted 26 October 2003 07:43 PM     profile     
How 'bout "Tumbling Tumbleweeds"?
Roy Ayres
Member

From: Starke, Florida, USA

posted 27 October 2003 05:12 AM     profile     
Blake:

"Tumbling Tumbleweeds" is one of my favorite old-time cowboy songs -- Sons of the Pioneers. It makes a great steel instrumental.

Joe Henry
Member

From: Ebersberg, Germany

posted 27 October 2003 10:45 AM     profile     
Gene Autry and Roy Rogers were singin´cowboy men
But I can ride as hard and fast and shoot as straight as them
Cause I´m a singin´cowboy with a guitar in my hand
Yeah I´m a singin´cowboy and I´m gonna sing again

("Singin´Cowboy" by Skip Battin and Kim Fowley, appears on: New Riders Of the Purple Sage, "Brujo", 1974)

Al Marcus
Member

From: Cedar Springs,MI USA

posted 27 October 2003 11:12 AM     profile     
Roy-I'll bet you and I both played "tumbling tumbleweeds" many times in the old days.

Remember "Riding down the Canyon", there were a lot of good old cowboy songs we played in those days.

I think I even played them on a 6 string supro once upon a time. I liked it. They were good steel guitar instrumentals...al

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[This message was edited by Al Marcus on 27 October 2003 at 11:15 AM.]

Roy Ayres
Member

From: Starke, Florida, USA

posted 27 October 2003 11:39 AM     profile     
Right, Al, I played Sons of the Pioneers stuff then on non-pedal and still play a couple on PSG. And don't forget "Cool, Clear Water" -- Bob Nolan on lead vocals.
("Keep a movin' Dan, don't you listen to him Dan, he's a devil not a man and he spreds the burning sand with water, cool, clear water. Ole Dan don't you see that big green tree? It's waitin' there for you and me with water, cool clear water.") Poor S.O.B. keeps seeing those mirages with cool clear water. Wonder if he ever really got to one?
Erv Niehaus
Member

From: Litchfield, MN, USA

posted 27 October 2003 11:53 AM     profile     
I don't think I spell it right but Red Steagel is now doing "cowboy" songs with several CD's out. If you go back a ways you might remember "Red Necks, White Socks & Blue Ribbon Beer". A country classic if there ever was one. He had a lot of good songs recorded.
Erv
Ben Slaughter
Member

From: Madera, California

posted 27 October 2003 12:41 PM     profile     
"Sons of the San Joaquin" are great, and great guys, they all live here near me in Fresno, CA.

You can get some of the old Chris LeDoux stuff on CD, had some great old cowboy tunes.

My favorites are "God Must Be a Cowboy At Heart" and "Strawberry Roan," but "Cool, Cool Water" is a great one, the Sons do a great version.

Glenn Suchan
Member

From: Austin, Texas

posted 27 October 2003 12:41 PM     profile     
Some great "cowboy" songs mentioned here....

What I don't understand is, why isn't Cowboy/Western music more popular in the Country & Western market? It's an original American music form that found it's "voice" around campfires and lineshacks on the range. No other form of American country music is that pure in it's origin.

Along with the other "Cowboy" artists previously mentioned, I'll add Tom Morrell and The Time Warp Top Hands version of "Night Rider's Lament" sung by the great Don Edwards.

Keep on pickin'!
Glenn
www.kevinfowler.com

[This message was edited by Glenn Suchan on 27 October 2003 at 12:44 PM.]

Ben Slaughter
Member

From: Madera, California

posted 27 October 2003 12:44 PM     profile     
Good question Glenn. And another question, why is the bluegrass influence so much stronger?
seldomfed
Member

From: Colorado

posted 27 October 2003 12:55 PM     profile     
I recently did a radio show on our local public radio station to sub for a friend. I did an hour of cowboy songs and then an hour of old C&W. I took excerpts from some Library of Congress albums I have of real cowboy songs, cattle calls, and ballads. Check that source! If your interested in the songs themselves and how they evolved on the range these are amazing. I learned a lot by listening again to the roots of this music. The cool thing was that when Alan Lomax recorded these in the 1940's he got Texas cowboys to sing the songs they knew. These guys were in their late 60's at that time so actually either wrote or sang many of the songs that later were presented by the 'drug store' cowboys of Nashville. Like 'Streets of Laredo', it was originally a British folk song and the guy didn't die from a gunshot, he had a lingering social disease.

The other hour I played old 'and his' music.
Bob Wills AND HIS T.P.B., Milton Brown AND HIS Musical Brownies, etc. There were tons of 'and his' bands.

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Chris Kennison
Ft. Collins, Colorado
"There is no spoon"
www.book-em-danno.com


Bob Doran
Member

From: Ames, Iowa, USA

posted 27 October 2003 02:10 PM     profile     
Glenn
I think cowboy songs lost their popularity because the movie/TV industry has stopped making the movies.
Like everything else,they will come back.
When you think about it, the cowboy was America's major contribution to the cultures of the world along with Jazz.
I still love those old movies to this day.
Bob
PS Now that i think about it, were there ever two more memorable tunes than "Maverick" and "Have Gun Will Travel"?
robert hays
Member

From: sikeston mo. usa

posted 27 October 2003 02:47 PM     profile     
I have two C.D's by a gentleman named Les Gilliam,that has about 30 great"cowboy songs",such as
"Strawberry roan"
"South of the border"
"When Bob Wills comes to town"
"Skyball Paint"
"Cool water"
"All around cowboy"
Just to name a few, and there is lots of GOOD steel.
you can reach him at
Rockin'S Records
P.O.box850044
Yukon,OK. 73085
Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 27 October 2003 05:00 PM     profile     
Hey Roy & Al..you guys are GREAT..those are great ole songs..Roy email me I have something I want to send to you that I think you will enjoy.Its a one of a kind..and you too Al....woweeeeee

Jody. Another old one "DUST" Dust Dust Dust on the trail Dust in my eye. Dust Dust Dust in the sky Dust Everywhere.

Bob Nolan was a genius with lyrics..e mail me
youse guys.

Roy,,you are old but nice. You too Al.

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 27 October 2003 at 05:24 PM.]

Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 27 October 2003 05:28 PM     profile     
The Timbre Trail...Tall Timbers calling and the echo's ring as we ride along the Timber Trail...Cimmaron roll on,hear my lonesome song,carry me away,from the skies of gray.Though Im feeling blue, I'll ride on with you through the oceans Blue,Cimmaron Roll On and On and On...how do you like me so far??

Man you guys are really OLD

Tim Spencer

Jussi Huhtakangas
Member

From: Helsinki, Finland

posted 27 October 2003 10:51 PM     profile     
British Archive Of Country Music has released a collection of Andy Parker & The Plainsmen songs on cd, some 30 cuts in there, bunch of them featuring Joaquin Murphy. This cd doesn't include ( sadly )the hot instrumentals, but there are some really nice cowboy & western tunes.
Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 28 October 2003 04:49 AM     profile     
Jussi
How can I get a copy?
Gene Jones
Member

From: Oklahoma City, OK USA

posted 28 October 2003 06:03 AM     profile     
All of those traditional "cowboy songs" of the past mentioned above are great!

Additionally, some of the best "cowboy & Rodeo songs by a contemporary artist" that I have heard, are on this album: (for example,take a listen to Punkin Red, and Tophand)

Harvey Derrick

[This message was edited by Gene Jones on 28 October 2003 at 07:10 AM.]

Roy Ayres
Member

From: Starke, Florida, USA

posted 28 October 2003 07:22 AM     profile     
Here are all the words to "Cool Watter"
Written by Bob Nolan and
recorded by the Sons of the Pioneers
=============================================
1. All day I face the barren waste
Without the taste of water, cool water
Old Dan and I with throats burned dry
And souls that cry for water,
cool, clear, water

CHORUS
Keep a-movin' Dan don't ya listen to him Dan
He's a devil not a man and he spreads the burning sand with water
Dan can you see that big green tree
Where the water's running free
And it's waiting there for you and me?

2. The nights are cool and I'm a fool
Each star's a pool of water, cool water
But with the dawn I'll wake and yawn
And carry on to water, cool, clear, water

3. The shadows sway and seem to say
Tonight we pray for water, cool, water
And way up there He'll hear our prayer
And show us where there's water,
cool,clear, water

4. Dan's feet are sore he's yearning for
Just one thing more than water,
cool, water
Like me I guess he'd like to rest
Where there's no quest for water,
cool, clear, water
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This makes a nice steel guitar instrumental.

[This message was edited by Roy Ayres on 28 October 2003 at 07:24 AM.]

Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 28 October 2003 07:42 AM     profile     
Gene e mail me if you can.
Bob Doran
Member

From: Ames, Iowa, USA

posted 28 October 2003 10:41 AM     profile     
Another cowboy song with great lyrics:

"Ghost riders in the sky"


Em G
An old cowpoke went riding out one dark and windy day
Em
Upon a ridge he rested as he went upon his way
Em (C/E) (A/E) (C/E)
When all at once a mighty herd of red-eyed cows he saw
C (Am) Em
coming through the ragged sky, and up a cloudy draw

Em G
Their brands were still on fire and their hot breath he could feel
Em
Their horns were black and shiny and their hooves were made of steel
Em (C/E) (A/E) (C/E)
A bolt of fear went through him as they rumbled through the sky
C (Am) Em
Then he saw the riders coming hard, and he heard their mournful cry


CHORUS

G Em (D)
Yippe-ai-ay, yippee-ai-oh
C (Am) Em
Ghost riders in the sky


Em G
As the riders loped on by him, he heard one call his name
Em
If you want to save your soul from hell, a riding on this range
Em (C/E) (A/E) (C/E)
Then cowboy change your ways today or with us you will ride
C (Am) Em
Trying to catch the devil's herd, across these endless skies

Bob Blair
Member

From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

posted 28 October 2003 11:09 AM     profile     
First version of "Ghost Riders" I ever heard was the Sons of the Pioneers. Definitely one of the reasons I pestered my parents to get me a guitar - a Harmony appeared on my tenth birthday, and my father warned me that morning that I wouldn't come back from my first lesson able to play "Ghost Riders in the Sky" - he must have read my mind. Guess I about wore the grooves off that one. I play it on steel sometimes jsut for fun.
Bill Fall
Member

From: Boston, MA, USA

posted 28 October 2003 11:22 AM     profile     
www.donedwardsmusic.com/
Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 28 October 2003 03:20 PM     profile     
Roy,you have a beautiful voice,I can hear you
now, Do you yodel and sing "Away Out There"?

I want to see you ride a horse

This is a fine thread about a fine man Bob Nolan.

Ray Montee
Member

From: Portland, OR, USA

posted 28 October 2003 04:20 PM     profile     
I wonder how the Sons of the Pioneers (the originals!)managed to make such a strong and lasting impact on so many of us when they failed to have an E9th pedal masher or six string, string stretchen', chickin' picken maverik on a blond Fender g'tar in their group? Uhmmmmmmm.
Bob Doran
Member

From: Ames, Iowa, USA

posted 28 October 2003 06:50 PM     profile     
Great question
Clearly the answer is that the singing is everything (and the heart, soul, and emotion put into it!)
But think how much better it would have been with the steel too!
Bob
Jody Carver
Member

From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever

posted 28 October 2003 08:11 PM     profile     
There are many early recording with steel guitar on the Sons records.

Most of the time it was Joaquin doing what he did best and blended right in with the voices of Tim Spencer Bob Nolan etc..Noel was
also a favorite of Bob Nolans and those two dominated the steel guitar chair on many of the early recordings.

There was one steel player prior to Joaquin and Noel and I beleive his name was "pokey" something..maybe a nick name but I recall Leo
Fender mentioning him to me.

As Ray said and I agree..I could not imagine a chicken picker or a whining steel guitar backing up such soulful and beautiful singing
It is is difficult for me to imagine.

Joaquin and Boggs blended in as best as anyone I could think of.

Good Post there Raymond...I cant stop talking when you get me started.

Jussi Huhtakangas
Member

From: Helsinki, Finland

posted 28 October 2003 10:53 PM     profile     
Jody, there's one of those Plainsmen-cd's on ebay right now. The seller is a record store in England and they sell them straight too if you just email them. That's how I got mine. They claim that all those BACM cd's are cd-roms, but actually they're not, just regular cd's, so ignore that comment there.
Alvin Blaine
Member

From: Sandy Valley, Nevada, USA

posted 29 October 2003 02:08 AM     profile     
quote:
I wonder how the Sons of the Pioneers (the originals!)managed to make such a strong and lasting impact on so many of us when they failed to have an E9th pedal masher or six string, string stretchen', chickin' picken maverik on a blond Fender g'tar in their group? Uhmmmmmmm.

Back in 1933 when they started The Pioneer Trio(they changed it to "The Sons of the Pioneers" in '34) I don't think they had any Fender guitars or any E9th pedal steels.
It would have been a little though trying to work those pedals and carry an amp on the back of a horse.

[This message was edited by Alvin Blaine on 29 October 2003 at 02:13 AM.]


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