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Topic: Best steel seat?
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Barry Sless
Member From: Kentfield, California, USA
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posted 07 December 2004 11:52 AM
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I'm looking for recommendations on the best pac-a-seat on the market. Which one has the most storage space, best latches, most durable, most comfortable, custom height? I don't need one with a back. Thanks for any and all input. |
Ronnie Long
Member From: Yadkinville, North Carolina, USA
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posted 07 December 2004 11:59 AM
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I have had three. I have a sidekick I got from Ken Rollins about a year ago. Best seat I ever used, built like a tank. Mine does have a back and built in power, just what I wanted. He will build you one any way you want it. Great guy to deal with. |
Pete Burak
Member From: Portland, OR USA
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posted 07 December 2004 12:03 PM
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I'm a big fan of the Steelers Choice seats. http://www.scottysmusic.com/seats01.htm Barry, are you going to tour with Phil and Friends?
Any dates out yet?
Thx,
Pete B. |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 07 December 2004 02:11 PM
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I love my Steelers Choice, side kick model from Kenny. 
Erv |
Fred Shannon
Member From: Rocking "S" Ranch, Comancheria, Texas
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posted 07 December 2004 02:19 PM
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I've got a Steeler's Choice that I've had for many years, I know not how many. Been recovered only one time but the hardware is just as good as it was when manufactured.
fred
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Kevin Hatton
Member From: Amherst, N.Y.
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posted 07 December 2004 02:24 PM
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I've seen them all. Steelers Choice is the best most well built seat on the market for me. They are not cheap seats. Professional quality. They are very comfortable and built extremely well. I always get comments form the sound crew guys on mine. |
Paddy Long
Member From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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posted 07 December 2004 02:45 PM
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I have had a Steelers CHoice seat (Red with the back) for about 10 years, and it's as good as the day I got it. It's real cosy on your cheeks. |
Barry Sless
Member From: Kentfield, California, USA
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posted 07 December 2004 02:53 PM
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Thanks for all the replys guys. Well, so far the overwhelming choice seems to be Steeler's Choice. What's the built in power for? How is the storage space? Enough for volume pedal, cords, strings, picks, bars, tuner, etc? Anybody ever seen or used a Walker? |
Curt Shoemaker
Member From: Ionia, Kansas, USA
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posted 07 December 2004 03:39 PM
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Hi Barry, I recommend Steelers Choice.They are the best seat I have found. Curt |
Charles Walker
Member From: Chester, Virginia, USA
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posted 07 December 2004 04:09 PM
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Barry you might can tell from my last name but the Walker in my opinion is the best seat on the market today and by the way so do alot of the pro's like John Hughey think so. Ray Walker is my brother and he build's the finest seat out there today. Quality and durability are a must. There are alot of Walker Seat owner's on this Forum so let them speak up and tell you what they think. |
Richard Gonzales
Member From: FITCHBURG,MA USA
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posted 07 December 2004 04:19 PM
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Steelers Choice,Steelers Choice, Steelers Choice. They have the correct egonomics,light,strong,cosmetics,etc.
Ken Rollins is a great guy! |
Samuel E. White
Member From: Greeneville TN.
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posted 07 December 2004 04:23 PM
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Barry I agree with Charles Walker. His Brother ray does build a great Steel guitar seat. Herbie Wallace also has one.They are built with profession and will stand a lot of abuse.Ray Walker is also a great guy and will use you right.
Sam White [This message was edited by Samuel E. White on 07 December 2004 at 04:24 PM.] |
Rex Thomas
Member From: Thompson's Station, TN
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posted 07 December 2004 07:03 PM
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Jerry Hayes
Member From: Virginia Beach, Va.
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posted 08 December 2004 04:32 AM
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I have Ray Walker's deluxe wide model and it's better than any pac-seat I've ever seen anywhere. Ray puts a lot of thought into his seats and they're built like a tank. With my 260 lb. frame the thing don't wiggle, squeak, or anything. I wouldn't go for any other brand. Ray has a lot of the big boys of steel guitar using his seats now so they must be good....JH------------------
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Joey Gaskins
Member From: Newbern, North Carolina, USA
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posted 08 December 2004 05:13 AM
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I also have a Walker seat with a backrest and another brand that I had before I tried the Walker. Try all the others before you purchase one and you'll be getting a Walker.
It's built by a fellow steeler with us in mind. Plenty of storage for pedals, strings, and effects. |
Jim Cohen
Member From: Philadelphia, PA
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posted 08 December 2004 05:48 AM
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In my experience, the best steel guitar seat is the one directly in front of Tommy Morrell, on Saturday night at the Dallas TSGA show every year. No kidding.  |
Curt Shoemaker
Member From: Ionia, Kansas, USA
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posted 08 December 2004 06:25 AM
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JIM, All this time you had me believing it was the one in front of you!!!!!!! |
Barry Sless
Member From: Kentfield, California, USA
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posted 08 December 2004 10:06 AM
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Okay, it's narrowed down to Steeler's Choice Sidekick and Walker. Is there anyone out there that's seen or used both of them? Thanks for all your replies. They've been a big help. |
Ray Walker
Member From: Smithfield, NC, USA
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posted 08 December 2004 03:58 PM
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Well Hi there Barry...I emailed you privately with some information and will post briefly here. I thank all of you for your kind words. I wanted you to hear this straight from the horse's mouth though. First off let me just say that I build each and every seat to a standard that I know will look professional wherever you use it....and I built in a bit of extra comfort when the music gets good and you feel like sittin in on a few more songs...and then I built a seat that I knew would last a lifetime. Bottom line??? Buy a Walker. On the other hand Ken Rollans is a friend of mine even though we are competitors and Ken and his son build a good seat too. I have a great deal of respect for the Rollans' and how hard they work to produce the product they produce. Personally I would like for you to buy a Walker but.....if you decide not to...then by all means buy from Ken...and I mean that sincerely. Barry, my friend, you just won't go wrong either way  Ray Walker
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John Davis
Member From: Cambridge, U.K.
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posted 08 December 2004 09:41 PM
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Get a close up look at a "Walker" seat before you buy IMHO there is nothing better out there when it comes to storage, comfort and most of all appearance,and beleive it or not I reckon my playing has improved since I got mine!!
Once again Ray my butt thanks you! |
John Davis
Member From: Cambridge, U.K.
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posted 08 December 2004 09:52 PM
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Ray, This is the type of email I get from people over here that see your seat.....Hello John,
I remember reading some time ago on the Forum that you had bought a Walker Seat. As I'm thinking of getting one myself ( the standard one with backrest), would you mind telling me where you got yours from in the States. Also how much was the Freight?
Thanks and Regards - Tony Smart
I wish I could afford to buy `em wholesale I reckon they would sell easily here! |
Jim Ives
Member From: Los Angeles, California, USA
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posted 09 December 2004 10:19 AM
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I use a drummer's throne with a back-rest. Advantage: adjustable height.
A medium plastic toolbox in addition to carry all my spare stuff.------------------
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Lexicon MPX 100
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Evans FET 500 -or-
Peavey Nashville 1000
Vox wah-wah pedal
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David Spires
Member From: Nashville, TN USA
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posted 09 December 2004 01:36 PM
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Walker. It looks great, feels great, and withstood an entire tour without a road case.Thanks for building the best, Ray, David Spires ------------------
Steel Guitarist for Jo Dee Messina: Carter D-10 8&7 / MSA Classic D-10 8&5; Line 6 Pod XT; Jagwire Artist Series Strings; Walker Professional Players' Chair; Peterson VS-II Tuner; Goodrich Matchbro & LDR Pedal; and BJS Bars |
Ricky Hagan
Member From: Elm City N.C. U.S.A.
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posted 09 December 2004 06:28 PM
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I got one from Ray.I have been satisfied in everyway.You Want find a nicer person to deal with either.Hey Ray, call me we still need to get together. |
Walter Haynes
Member From: Sevierville, Tn
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posted 09 December 2004 07:27 PM
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I have used most every brand of seat in my 50 years of playing steel. I thought they were all very good but the Walker seat is the the one that stands above all others!! Plenty of storage space for volume pedal, strings,cords,picks or what ever you carry. John Hughey, Tommy White, and many of the pros use Walker seats. Try one, you won't be sorry------Walter Haynes
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Mark van Allen
Member From: loganville, Ga. USA
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posted 09 December 2004 08:14 PM
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Hey, Barry, how's life? Good luck on your seat quest. Like much in the Steel world, there are several really good options. One thing I'll mention- I've seen people in the past knocking the sidekick idea, (like its too hoity-toity or something) but several of the groups I play with do not like to have someone standing up rummaging about to find strings, clippers, etc. in the middle of their show sets. The sidekick idea is incredibly useful there. Just flip up a door to get to strings, ebow, etc.
I really like my Steeler's Choice- but the Walkers are very nice as well. One thing to consider is if the seat you'll get is somewhere near the height you're used to sitting on with whatever you're using now- a different height can throw you off a bit.
Oh yeah- I don't think anyone answered you but the models with built in power are referring to an included outlet strip that gives you someplace to plug in adapters, rack gear etc. I always thought cords plugged into my seat would be a bit in the way, but I'm sure it works for some.
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PAUL WARNIK
Member From: OAK LAWN,IL,USA
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posted 10 December 2004 09:12 AM
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I looked at the Walker and the Steeler's Choice at Scotty's show-The "Steelers" was my "choice" for quality and price |
Dave Grafe
Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA
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posted 12 December 2004 11:30 AM
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Hi Barry,I was about to post just such a query - and there was Barry! Are you still doing the FOB thing? You were talking about a new steel in Alaska last summer, did that ever happen? I hope that purty little ShoBud of yours is still getting lots of playing time. Let me know when you're coming through P-town next, there's always dinner.... ------------------
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Pickin', etc.1978 ShoBud Pro I E9, 1960 Les Paul (SG) Deluxe, 1963 Precision Bass, 1954 Gibson LGO, 1897 Washburn Hawaiian Steel Conversion |
Hal Higgins
Member From: Denham Springs, LA
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posted 12 December 2004 12:26 PM
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I've had my "Steelers Choice" seat for almost 3 years now....and I love it....it's very comfortable and versatile (with the sidekick)....plenty of room for storage. I also appreciate Ray Walkers comments, they speak to me of the gentleman that he is...maybe someday I'll need another seat, and I'll probably buy a Walker, so I can have the best of both, Mr. Walker and my buddy Ken Rollans......HAL ------------------
Be Blessed........HAL
'85 Emmons LeGrande D-10,(8 & 6) Hilton Vol. Pedal, BJS Birthstone bar, Rack w/Evans Pre-amp, Lexicon MPX500; (2)1501-4 BW's in custom built cabs by T.A. Gibson, & Sound Tech PL802 Digital Power Amp.
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Herb Steiner
Member From: Cedar Valley, Travis County TX
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posted 12 December 2004 01:18 PM
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Barry
I have three Steeler's Choice seats, for two reasons. First, they are a quality product and was the first seat of its type I encountered, back in 1988, and second, because Kenn Rollans (he does spell his first name with two "n's") and I instantly became friends. So I do business with my pals who also do fine work. Like Bobby Bowman, Mike Cass, Jerry Fessenden, et al.Ray Walker comes highly recommended from those who know, and so I'm sure his product is excellent as well. Really, either maker's seat I'm sure will serve you well and long. I do want to comment on the "sidecar" and power strip issues. The sidecar does increase the weight and bulk of the seat; it's bigger and you carry more stuff. But to have all your string changing equipment right at your side where you don't have to stand up, turn around, etc. on stage makes it well worth it to me. I use my seat section to carry stuff I won't need on stage, like effects, cords, Black Box, spare volume pedal, etc., and my strings, string crank, tuner and picks/bar box in the sidecar. As for the power strip... it's like gold, poppa. I gotta have it! I plug my amp, my Hilton pedal, and my Black Box all into my seat, and the seat into the general power supply. Everything is grounded and controlled by the on/off switch on the power strip. If all you do is go straight from a passive pedal into your amp, I guess no strip is necessary. For me, though, it's an integral part of the rig. ------------------
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Damir Besic
Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 12 December 2004 03:37 PM
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GFI...I have it since 1989 and still going strong.No complains.Db ------------------
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Jim Cohen
Member From: Philadelphia, PA
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posted 12 December 2004 04:13 PM
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I dunno, Herb. Somehow the idea of sittin' on an 'electric chair' kinda gets me all shook up... |
Herb Steiner
Member From: Cedar Valley, Travis County TX
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posted 12 December 2004 05:26 PM
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Jimbeaux
Kenn Rollans makes a kerosene seat if you're apprehensive about the electric model. I'd only recommend it to the non-smokers out there in Forumland, however.------------------
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Curt Shoemaker
Member From: Ionia, Kansas, USA
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posted 13 December 2004 04:51 AM
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Herb,The only draw back to the kerosene seat is that it is labeled "for outdoor gigs only". |
Mel Mandville
Member From: Renton, Washington, USA
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posted 13 December 2004 01:47 PM
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Hi guys, way to go
Now you've got me wanting a new seat. I've only been playing for a few years and I've been using a ajustable
piano bench I bought a guitar center. Which works o.k.
and is compact. I like the idea of the sidecar to keep all my extra strings etc. in. Are these seats ajustable?
I'm wondering about getting the height right.Mel |
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