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Gary Arnold
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From: Holt, Florida, USA

posted 24 March 2005 07:44 PM     profile     
What does Bobbe Seymour's "Z" lever suppose to do?
thanks,
arnie
Tony Dingus
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From: Kingsport, Tennessee, USA

posted 24 March 2005 07:59 PM     profile     
It lowers string 2 - D# to D, string 9-D to C# and raises string 7-F# to G#. It will let you play licks/songs in a big chord melody along with the E to Eb lever.
Tony
Ron Steenwijk
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From: Greensburg,PA

posted 24 March 2005 11:16 PM     profile     
You might take a look at this thread. http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/008521.html http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/003964.html
I think this is what you are talking about.

Ron

Brandon Housewright
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From: Statesboro, Georgia, USA

posted 25 March 2005 07:06 AM     profile     
I liked the 3 pedal 2 lever idea so much that my Marrs rebuild Pro I is only 3+2. It's easier to tune and play to me. ABC pedals like normal, lower E's 4 & 8, and the Z lever. No F lever or "lick" levers...everything works with everything. Pretty cool stuff if you're not afraid to learn slants or reverses. The same music's there under your hands; it just requires a different thought process to get them. The 3 tapes Bobbe made on the subject are real ear openers. The Z lever is great to have and use. Check it out!
Morton Kellas
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From: Chazy, NY, USA 12921

posted 25 March 2005 09:05 AM     profile     
I bought the two set A & B tapes from Bobbie only to find out that I already had the changes on my guitar. The tapes are good and Bobbie shows you how to use them in an easy to understand method. I did pick up some usefull ideas from Bobbie on the tapes. I feel that he is one great player and I always enjoy hearing him. I wish he would put out more instructional material.

[This message was edited by Morton Kellas on 25 March 2005 at 09:06 AM.]

Bobby Lee
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From: Cloverdale, North California, USA

posted 25 March 2005 09:36 AM     profile     
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It lowers string 2 - D# to D, string 9-D to C# and raises string 7-F# to G#.
Each of those changes are useful for a variety of things. I have them separated on my guitar.

It's pretty common to lower strings 2 and 9 together. They are rarely played together so they don't interfere with each other.

The 7th string F# to G# raise is often put on the so-called "G" lever. Paul Franklin raises string 1 F# to G# and string 2 D# to E along with this change. The top two strings are rarely played along with the 7th string so there is no interference.

The real different thing about Bobbe's Z lever is the way it combines strings 7 and 9. I wouldn't want my 7th string to raise every time I lower my 9th string. For me it seems more versatile to have them on separate levers.

But then Bobbe can play circles around me so the usual disclaimers apply (I am not a pro, your milage may vary, etc.).

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Morton Kellas
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From: Chazy, NY, USA 12921

posted 25 March 2005 11:42 AM     profile     
Bobby, you are right, I feel a need for them to be seperate as well. On the Z lever video, Bobbie say's the same thing. He has another lever to lower the 9th independent of raising the 7th. He say's you can keep most of your levers that you are used to and just add the Z lever. On the video, Bobbie does away with the G# to F# lower and puts the Z lever in place of that. It has to be on the opposite knee that your E-Eb change is to work right. I did not want to loose the G# to F# change,so I put it on my 6th knee lever. You can do alot with the Z lever, but I know players that do alot without it as well.

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