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Topic: Is Emmons Guitar out of business?
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Rick Garrett
Member From: Tyler, Texas
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posted 14 May 2005 03:29 AM
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Someone told me Emmons was "officially" out of business. Wonder if its true? Anyone know for sure?Rick |
Peter
Member From: Cape Town, South Africa
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posted 14 May 2005 04:38 AM
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Anyone know for sure?
Yes, Ron Lashley Jr is the only person to answer this question correctly. Just phone him on:
Phone 336 227-2782 * FAX 336 222-1911
Email: ronlashley@emmons.com
PO Box 2044
1771 Webb Avenue
Burlington, NC 27216 Please let us know what he said?
Thanks Rick! 
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Ron Steenwijk
Member From: Greensburg,PA
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posted 14 May 2005 06:40 AM
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I've mailed Ron a couple of days ago and have not received an answer yet.But somebody told me that Ron doesn't answer mails.
So I don't really know the situation about Emmons.I would like to know though.Ron |
Peter
Member From: Cape Town, South Africa
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posted 14 May 2005 07:02 AM
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Ron, I am dealing with other builders via email and their response time averages about 14 days.
I don't see that as a problem. |
Charles Curtis
Member From: Bethesda, Maryland, USA
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posted 14 May 2005 07:29 AM
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Their web-site seems to be ok. |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 14 May 2005 07:32 AM
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I just got a call from Rebecca Lashley yesterday and they are ready to ship my second, new D-10 push/pull. It sure doesn't sound like they're out of business to me. How do these rumors get started? 
Erv |
Rick Garrett
Member From: Tyler, Texas
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posted 14 May 2005 08:25 AM
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Just something I heard and was curious about. Ron, I am dealing with other builders via email and their response time averages about 14 days.
I don't see that as a problem. Hey Pete, I DO see that as a problem. I can guaranty you that if I did decide to buy a new guitar, of any kind, and it took the builder two weeks to get back with me it would be nearly two weeks too late. In my business a reasonably quick return contact is simply a matter of professional courtesy. I don't see how a guitar builder should be any different. Case in point, I emailed Carter with a question about one of their guitars on a Saturday. Monday morning I got an email from Anne with an answer. I didn't buy a new Carter this time and ended up getting a 66 Emmons BUT I'll remember how Carter runs their business the next time I'm looking for a new guitar. Rick[This message was edited by Rick Garrett on 14 May 2005 at 08:29 AM.] |
Ron Steenwijk
Member From: Greensburg,PA
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posted 14 May 2005 10:19 AM
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Peter,I mailed Bob Rains a couple of times and this gentlemen mailed me back the same day.
IMO if a business man would take 14 days to answer my mail he has lost the deal.
There are others that are quicker then that. Erv.
I would like to know too who is starting this. Ron |
Peter
Member From: Cape Town, South Africa
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posted 14 May 2005 11:30 AM
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I would like to know who is going to end this.
One phone call to Emmons is sufficient. [This message was edited by Peter on 14 May 2005 at 11:30 AM.] |
Ray Montee
Member From: Portland, OR, USA
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posted 14 May 2005 12:20 PM
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14 days?I ordered a dozen custom-sets of Gibson guitar strings last August; Just last month I rec'd a partially complete order with some wrong strings included. Customer service seems to elude steel guitar players. $136.00 for strings....isn't a small order for strings, in my opinion and yet I guess I'm supposed to install some custom strings intermingled with off the shelf strings...........what a joke! |
b0b
Sysop From: Cloverdale, California, USA
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posted 14 May 2005 07:21 PM
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i don't have a horse in this race, but I know from experience that the Emmons Guitar Company has always been slow to respond to customers. It was true when I bought mine in 1978 and it's true today.
I expect that if and when they go out of business, there will be a formal announcement. The fact that their web site is still up is good enough for me.Unfounded rumors of their demise have been posted several times over the past few years. Such rumors are bad for business, and serve no useful purpose in my opinion. ------------------
 Bobby Lee
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Rick Garrett
Member From: Tyler, Texas
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posted 14 May 2005 07:44 PM
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b0b, thanks for your email. I probably shouldn't have taken your post personally. I try very hard to be as considerate and respectful to everyone as is humanly possible. If you have any doubts whatsoever about this post causing problems you have my blessing to slam it closed and I won't say one word about it. I do apologize to you for causing you any trouble at all in your house. ThanksRick |
Charles Dempsey
Member From: The Cradle of the Stars.
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posted 14 May 2005 09:35 PM
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*[This message was edited by Charles Dempsey on 19 May 2005 at 02:31 PM.] |
Eric West
Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA
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posted 15 May 2005 03:07 AM
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Well hell, why not? Sho~Bud is still going strong..." EJL |
David L. Donald
Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 15 May 2005 05:51 AM
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I gotta say:If there is a rumor of a company closing,
and you don't ask here,
then the rumor just keeps going. If you DO ask here, the rumor gets scotched,
or confirmed for all to see. That stops the rumor faster than other ways IMHO.
Replaced with FACT. |
Rick Garrett
Member From: Tyler, Texas
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posted 15 May 2005 05:57 AM
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The reason I started this thread is that I recently made a deal to buy an Emmons S10. Beautiful black 66 bolt on in great shape and I know eventually it'll need parts. Then I heard about the possibility of Emmons closing shop and I got a little concerned that I might not be able to get new parts if I ever need them. So I asked the question here in hopes of finding the truth. Sure didn't mean to step on any toes or upset anybodys apple cart. Just an honest question.Rick
P.S. It was suggested that I simply call Emmons and ask the question of them. I don't know those folks at all and am not comfortable at all with calling them to ask that question. |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 15 May 2005 07:24 AM
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I have had an excellent business relationship with the Lashleys over the years. I have ordered and received new guitars, many parts and lever kits and just recently a new D-10 push/pull guitar.
I'll have to admit that sometimes they are rather hard to get ahold of and slow to respond, but I have my idiosyncrasies too! Rebecca is very easy to visit with and if you don't get a chance to talk to her, her mom, Bobby, is a sweatheart of a gal too! You don't get a chance to talk to Ron very often. After all, he's busy cranking out those wonderful EMMONS GUITARS!
Erv  |
Marty Pollard
Member From: a confidential source
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posted 15 May 2005 08:45 AM
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yawn... |
Farris Currie
Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 15 May 2005 10:00 AM
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RICK my Brother,you did nothing wrong!!Plain simple question!we all deserve to know if something is going on.and we have the right to know if parts will be available in the future for us.Not right to get jumped on about asking! i;m with you all the way my,i want to know toooooooo.
farris |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 15 May 2005 10:41 AM
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Beautiful black 66 bolt on in great shape and I know eventually it'll need parts.
Does Emmons still make and sell parts for 39-year-old guitars? There aren't many manufacturers in any industry that are willing to do that. |
Cor Muizer Jr
Member From: The Netherlands/europe
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posted 15 May 2005 10:57 AM
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your absolutly right b0b.
i think they don't
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Cor
soundengineer/steelplayer Rains D10 8×5 RED Goodrich LDR2
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Ron Steenwijk
Member From: Greensburg,PA
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posted 15 May 2005 11:51 AM
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Does Emmons still make and sell parts for 39-year-old guitars
Well they are building Push Pull steels again so I guess they will have parts for sale for these steel guitars.
I haven't seen one of these new P/P's but I think that the parts they are using now will have the same measurements as the older parts.
Changing that would be unwise.For other parts such as kneelevers and necks and body's Emmons always had a special pricelist which is available on the Emmons website.Ron ------------------
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Cor Muizer Jr
Member From: The Netherlands/europe
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posted 15 May 2005 11:55 AM
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nope they only use there parts for themselves.------------------
Cor
soundengineer/steelplayer Rains D10 8×5 RED Goodrich LDR2
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Ron Steenwijk
Member From: Greensburg,PA
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posted 15 May 2005 12:04 PM
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Take a look for your self. http://emmonsguitar.net/replacementparts6.htm http://emmonsguitar.net/replacementparts5.htm
I don't think my eyes play tricks on me.
It says clearly that a Bellcrank for D10 P/P is $12.50.
And a Crossbar is $38.00Ron |
Rick Garrett
Member From: Tyler, Texas
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posted 15 May 2005 12:07 PM
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Well since they are making push pulls again, the parts should be pretty much the same I guess. Maybe not who knows. Wont matter much if they're on the way out.Rick |
Charles Dempsey
Member From: The Cradle of the Stars.
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posted 15 May 2005 12:08 PM
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Rick,I wouldn't expect to get parts for a 40 year old machine of any type from the manufacturer. Maybe they've got some stuff laying around, but I wouldn't count on it. Having said that, it seems that Emmons is reissuing some push/pulls, so maybe they do have parts. If/when I talk to them I'll ask. The problem is the same in the auto industry. Back in 1996 I tried to get some trim parts for an '86 Olds G-Body project, and the squirts working the parts desk weren't even aware that Olds had ever made a rear-wheel-drive car! They had to dig the boss out to help find the parts book because they had trashed the microfiche for everything over 5 years old. 10 years is the rule in most industries. Outside that window you're on your own. Charlie |
Joey Ace
Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada
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posted 15 May 2005 03:41 PM
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I wouldn't worry, Rick.Push Pulls have such a loyal following, and were produced in such high numbers that I think parts will always be available from someone. Like Model T Ford parts. You won't get them from the factory, but there's still a lot being produced. |
Farris Currie
Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 15 May 2005 04:53 PM
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Mabe someone will come along like JOHN COOP is doing for SHO-BUD.those parts could be cut with laser,ect.make better parts than origional.Just my thinking.
farris |
Rick Garrett
Member From: Tyler, Texas
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posted 15 May 2005 05:00 PM
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I hope if it is true that somebody would come along and financially bail Emmons out so that the name could live long in the steel world. I'm sure Joey's right about parts too. Good luck to them at any rate. Rick |
Randy Gilliam
Member From: San Antonio, Texas, USA
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posted 15 May 2005 08:18 PM
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I ordered A New Legrande 111 April 14TH 2004 .I Sent 400.00 Deposit.How can they build a push pull faster than a all pull? I will continue too wait because I have already tryed Brand X . When brand X can get the Emmons TONE I Might Consider One.EmmonSless In San Antonio. |
Steve Dodson
Member From: Sparta, Tennessee, USA
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posted 15 May 2005 08:54 PM
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Hey Rick,
No problem with parts man,Just get with Mike Cass if you need anything. If he doesn't have it he can get it. |
Al Carmichael
Member From: Sylvan Lake, Michigan, USA
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posted 15 May 2005 10:54 PM
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If this were a Carter thread, Carter Steels would have been on this with a definite response. Too much speculation. I wish Emmons would clear the air themselves. Opinions mean nothing compared to getting it from the horses mouth. |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 16 May 2005 12:55 AM
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Al C, you beat me to it
yer post is just what i had in mind |
Stephen Gambrell
Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA
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posted 16 May 2005 05:20 AM
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Emmons guitar, and the Lashleys, are not members of this Forum. |
David Doggett
Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 16 May 2005 05:34 AM
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I think the replacement parts list is real. I called Emmons up several months ago and ordered a vertical knee lever kit for my p/p. Although they may have started making p/ps in the early '60s, they were made on a steady basis through the late '80s - quite a run. Except for the necks and tuners, all the other parts were pretty much the same throughout all those years. There is no other steel company from the early '60s still selling steels or parts.This reminds me of two famous quotes: "I may be slow, but I'm ahead of you." - old bumper sticker "The rumors of my death are greatly exagerated." - Mark Twain |
Cor Muizer Jr
Member From: The Netherlands/europe
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posted 16 May 2005 05:35 AM
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and a cabinet without endplates Ronnie !further no other parts so where can you buy endplates changers and al the other stuff not listed, al they other parts are legrande parts trying to remember me that there was somebody they called them for a decal
and was hearing that they won't sell it because they keep it for themselves HA'! ------------------
Cor
soundengineer/steelplayer Rains D10 8×5 RED Goodrich LDR2
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Jerry Roller
Member From: Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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posted 16 May 2005 07:28 AM
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I ordered some decals and chrome fretboards by phone and received them last Friday. Same great service as always. 
Jerry[This message was edited by Jerry Roller on 16 May 2005 at 07:33 AM.] |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 16 May 2005 07:59 AM
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The Lashleys are still be making parts for the push/pulls. I got a letter a while back from Rebecca apologizing for taking a little longer on my new push/pull because they had to send some parts out for plating.
Erv |
Rick Garrett
Member From: Tyler, Texas
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posted 16 May 2005 08:06 AM
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Chrome fretboards?? Anybody got a picture of those? That sounds like they would look good on my new guitar.
Rick
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Ron Steenwijk
Member From: Greensburg,PA
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posted 16 May 2005 09:49 AM
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Rick take a look at this page. http://www.mightyfinemusic.com/emmons/emmons.htm I think that Emmons still is in business and they will continue to do so.Maybe they had some bad times.But who hasn't?
It would be a big loss for our steel guitar community if something would happen to their business.
I still prefer the emmons guitar.I've tried several other brands.But I will always return to Emmons.I've build several steels myself but I can't reach that level of sound quality.
Maybe I will start a riod here with these words.But I would like to see that they will continue building great steel guitars.
In sound and quality they are still number one in my book. Ron [This message was edited by Ronald Steenwijk on 16 May 2005 at 12:49 PM.]
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