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Topic: Pedal Steels you DISLIKED..
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Hans Holzherr
Member From: Ostermundigen, Switzerland
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posted 20 May 2005 12:19 PM
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My first steel was a Framus. Need I say more? Didn't stay in tune and had an awful tone.
I have a Carter S-12 which has a great tone, but I have a hard time adjusting to the narrow pedal spacing.Hans |
David Nugent
Member From: Gum Spring, Va.
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posted 20 May 2005 06:37 PM
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Note to Randy Gilliam: And you told me you sold me the Derby D-10 because you did not like the color, shame on you! But seriously, after I received the guitar from you and changed it around to my copedant, I tweaked it a little and have had no problems with it staying in tune at all. As they say, "one man's trash...... |
Billy Carr
Member From: Seminary, Mississippi USA
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posted 20 May 2005 10:15 PM
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My worst guitars? I had a D-10 ZB Custom, beautiful brown/tan wood guitar. Would not stay in tune. Early 70's model. Sho-Bud D-10 Professional Model,mahogany color,early 70's model. Forget it staying in tune. Broke the 3rd string every night I played it. Had S-10D Fessenden in the mid-90's I think it was. May have been later. Anyway, I had to tune it after each song. Really, after every song. Had four Nashville Ltd. guitars. Three of them always had tuning problems and even had the rod that goes through the pedal bar on a S-10D to actually slip out while I was playing one night during the first set. Whoever built it apparently forgot to put a allen screw in place to hold the sliding bar in place. The changers on these were not very good either. Tuning nightmare. But I did have a Doug Jernigan Model NV Ltd., black mica, D-10 that was as good a guitar as I've ever had. There's been some more guitars with problems over the years but I don't remember them right now. When your playing live or especially doing studio work the last thing you need is guitar troubles. That's one reason I'm a CARTER man. When they send you a guitar you don't have to worry about it. Just adjust the Pedals/KL's to the way you like them and then play. Of course, there's other guitars out there that are just as good as the CARTERS but I found what I like and it fits me perfectly. If I were to switch brands which I'm not planning on doing it would be a Zumsteel. My other choices are listed in the order I would probably choose: (1) Carter (2) Zumsteel (3) Mullen (4) GFI (5) Excel w/5-raise & 5-lower mech. (6) MSA new one only (7) Pedalmaster (8) Derby (Note> Don't anyone take it personally about my guitar choices. This is only my opinion guys. I like all of the guitars I listed. Matter of fact the only one I hadn't had a chance to play is the new MSA's.) |
Richard Sinkler
Member From: Fremont, California
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posted 20 May 2005 11:52 PM
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Mine would have to be the Super-Pro I had. Kept breaking parts and at the time, I didn't know about the forum and the people making replacement parts. It didn't have the "Bud" tone I was expecting. At the same time, I was playing a Kline guitar, which was a great guitar. That may have made my opinion of the Bud a little harsh. But, it was the only guitar I was not sad to let go of.------------------
Carter D10 9p/10k, NV400
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Mike Perlowin
Member From: Los Angeles CA
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posted 21 May 2005 01:10 PM
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I lucked out. My first steel, which is still my promery instrument, is an MSA maple body with a lacquer finish. Gerry Walker (of Stereo Steel amps) told me it's the best sounding MSA he ever heard. (BTW Gerry is another great player who deserves more recognition than he gets.)My other guitar, is an older MSA mica guitar. It's not bad, but it's definately not in the same class as the wood body, and suffers by comparison. It has been retrofitted with the Sierra interchangable pickup system, and I've been trying different pickups, and so far the True Tone seems to be the best.
I keep it for 2 reasons. The first is that although it doesn't sound as good as my wood body, there are times when I want to use it on a recording to get a different sound. The other is that it's more durable than the wood body, and it's useful for taking to jams or places where I'd be afraid the other one might get damaged. I think that people who have only experienced the mica MSA guitars may not realize how much better the maple ones are. |
Cartwright Thompson
Member From: Portland, Maine, USA
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posted 21 May 2005 04:00 PM
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Let's see..
Sho-Bud s-12, Williams U-12, MSA D-10+S-10, Marlin S-10, Pro-II, 2 Mullen D-10's,PP S-10, Fessenden S-10, Carter D10 and S-10, Fuzzy D-10(Actually wish I still had it).
I bought a Legrande II new in '91, it's the only one I kept and I have no desire to get anything else. |
Damir Besic
Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 21 May 2005 04:23 PM
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had many and love them all,some better then others but most of the time you get what you paid for.I never expected $5000 quality out of $500 steel`s.Db ------------------
"Promat"
~when tone matters~
http://hometown.aol.com/damirzanne2/PROMAT.html |
Charlie Wallace
Member From: Marina, California, USA
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posted 23 May 2005 10:20 AM
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My nightmare steel story is about an MCI I bought in 1986 (somewhere around there anyway). I had an Emmons single 12 that I had been playing for seven years. I lost the Emmons when I was working at the Oak Grove Club near Redding California with Kelly and the Roadies, a band from Medford Oregon. The owner (Amos somebody) decided to burn the bar down one night to collect some insurance money. He was about to get away with it when his wife, on counsel from her priest, told the insurance people what really happened. Amos ended dong time in jail and the last I heard was that he went blind in prison..... Anyway, I wanted to buy another Emmons but decided to go with the MCI because that's what Buddy was endorsing at the time. When the guitar finally arrived I took it to work that night at a club I was playing at near Yreka California. Needless to say, I was very excited to not have to play the Sho-Bud student model I had borrowed. The MCI had a six position switch on it and during the first song I was experimenting with the different sounds. Well it seemed that the switch wasn't tightened down enough to the body and when I turned it the entire switch rotated and pulled the wires out. I ended up having to turn the guitar upside down and resolder the switch. In addition to that problem the guitar had the absolute worse cabinet drop. It was another single 12 with a drop on the low E string down to a C#. That change never came back in tune on release of the pedal. Finally, it was the noisiest guitar I ever heard, always humming. I disliked the instrument so much I stopped playing in 1990 and switched to Bluegrass Dobro. About six years ago I got the urge to start playing steel again and traded the MCI for a 1965 single 10 Emmons that is a real pleasure to play.
I know other people have had good experiences with MCI's and that in general they have a good reputation. I must admit that the MCI I owned was pretty to look at and one of the tone settings on the 6 position switch was pretty good. |
Randy Gilliam
Member From: San Antonio, Texas, USA
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posted 23 May 2005 03:35 PM
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I still dont like the color . Do You? |
Barry Westerfield
Member From: Missouri, USA
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posted 23 May 2005 03:56 PM
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I dislike all steels that sound better than mine,I was about to sell all my equipment when I listened too that young man(I believe his name is Austin) at the convention in St. Louis...
My
Dislike though would be
"Little Buddy" "GFI Economy" ------------------
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