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Hans Holzherr
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From: Ostermundigen, Switzerland

posted 01 May 2006 08:55 AM     profile     
The NNS is also a great tool for shortening vocals reheasal time because it's used to write the melodies for the voices, where the numbers signify the scale notes of the key that the song is in, regardless of the chord progression. So far, so good. But one obstacle I encountered was the bridge in "Buckaroo" where it goes from the 1 chord to the +5 chord and on to the -3 chord etc. That was completely messing up my little system, and I wish someone would tell me how to write melodies against key-unrelated chords.

Hans

basilh
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From: United Kingdom

posted 01 May 2006 11:03 AM     profile     
Hans, Where is the change you're referring to ?

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Ron Sodos
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From: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA

posted 01 May 2006 01:49 PM     profile     
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU Dr Hugh Jeffereys. I always add my 2 cents here whenever I hear "The Nashville Number System". What a crock!!! How about calling it the Warsaw number system, or the Prague number system. It was probably created somewhere in Poland or Chekoslovakia anyway.
I learned 1 (major), 2 (minor), 3 (minor), 4(major), 5 (major), 6 (minor), 7 (diminshed) in my orchestra class in NYC in 1960 +/- long before it was ever called the Nashville Number System. Whenever I hear it called that it actually makes me angry. But that is my problem isn't it. LOL.......

[This message was edited by Ron Sodos on 01 May 2006 at 01:50 PM.]

Hans Holzherr
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From: Ostermundigen, Switzerland

posted 02 May 2006 03:54 AM     profile     
Basil, it's 1:12 into the song where it goes "heaven knows..." and the harmony voices echoing.

Hans

David L. Donald
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From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

posted 02 May 2006 06:07 AM     profile     
I didn't read every post yet, but,
For me the beauty of the Nashville/Berklee number systems is for instant transposition.

You do a song on F for the male singer,
but suddenly you need to do it in D for the girl singer.

Or even an unexpected mid song transposition of the whole frame work.

With numbers you just change your refrence point 1/I and keep going.

This for me is also just as helpful on heavey jazz tunes,
where transposition is MUCH more difficult.

And often more requested on the fly.<

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 02 May 2006 at 06:09 AM.]

David Doggett
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From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

posted 02 May 2006 06:35 AM     profile     
Having learned the number system while taking classical piano lessons in grade school in the'50s, it was immensely helpful when I took up guitar and started learning guitar chords. It was even more helpful when I took up Dobro and lap steel, because the fret counting relationships to the number system are the same in every key. Finally when I took up pedal steel, the number system became my main way of learning the functions of all the pedals and levers. It seems to me that knowing the number system is essential for learning pedal steel. This instrument is unique in that the fret counting rules, strings, grips, pedals and knees are all identical in all keys in relation to the number system. I can play in any key, just by changing my home fret. Outside of a few common keys, I have no idea what the note and chord names are for the notes and chords I am playing - it's all according to the number system. Unfortunately that makes reading music difficult. But transposing keys is a breeze.

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Ron Sodos
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From: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA

posted 02 May 2006 02:53 PM     profile     
You guys make it sound like such a big deal. Knowing the number system is as simple as Do Re Mi. Its music, thats all. 1 = 1, 4 = 4 and 5 = 5. Why is that so awesome. I learned it at 8 years old. I never called it anything other that learrning music. Just like the key of G has F# and the key F has Bb.

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