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Topic: Sho-Bud pros- cons???
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Lem Smith
Member From: Fulton, MS. U.S.A.
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posted 25 May 2006 11:08 AM
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Ray, obviously you don't gotta have one to do that, because Lloyd sounded incredible on a JCH guitar, as did Jimmy on a Mullen. Of course Buddy E. gets an acceptable tone out of an Emmons too. Also Tom Brumley and Maurice Anderson managed to do well on other brands too.  Can't say that playing a Sho~Bud will guarantee you'll sound great either. After all, I play a Sho~Bud, and I doubt Tommy White has lost any sleep worrying over me taking his Opry job away from him.  Lem |
Michael Holland
Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA
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posted 25 May 2006 11:10 AM
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Here's one of the coolest Sho-Buds ever. And it's got great provenance. |
Ray Minich
Member From: Limestone, New York, USA
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posted 25 May 2006 11:25 AM
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Another theory shot to smithereens...  What a story on that Bud! You gotta love these instruments. The first thing I did when my "exile" started in February was to get my axes into safekeeping. The car, the stocks, the diamonds... leave 'em. The steels get safehoused first... |
James Morehead
Member From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 25 May 2006 02:37 PM
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What a great story! |
Damir Besic
Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 25 May 2006 07:55 PM
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quote:
"Listen here kid, I wouldn't cry over them taking your old steel guitar. They did you a favor!"
so much about what Shot tought of Dekley`s Db ------------------
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Tom Quinn
Member From: Sacramento
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posted 25 May 2006 08:50 PM
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Alex said he wanted to step up from a student guitar. An older quality Sho-Bud such as a Pro II is an excellent choice. Guy saying that if you want to make the big bucks get a new steel, misses the point. I think Alex is an "intermediate" player, judging from his post... :- ) He wants something a step up.Bottom line? you don't have to spend thousands to have a quality steel to play abut 90% of what you hear on the radio. |
James Morehead
Member From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 26 May 2006 05:01 AM
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Amen, Tom. |
Alex Piazza
Member From: Arkansas, USA
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posted 26 May 2006 07:29 AM
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Well, durability is definatley an issue. I play out around three times a week. I go on tour occassinally. Im clumsy and drunk a lot, so I end up beating the hell out of my gear. |
James Morehead
Member From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 26 May 2006 09:23 AM
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Uh---you may want to hang with the Carter Starter for awhile!!  |
Farris Currie
Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 26 May 2006 09:51 AM
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WOW,
may i suggest a MULTIKORD hehhehhehehheheI have a couple of hammers and a hatchet for sale if you interested!!!!!!!
farris |
Willis Vanderberg
Member From: Bradenton, FL, USA
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posted 01 June 2006 11:24 AM
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Well, for what it is worth , I don't see any of the top pro's toting around these big old heavey guitars.
I have two Emmons p/p guitars and never play them out. They play fine and sound fine but are HEAVEY. I use my blue LeGrande lll or the MCI or I now have a Mullen to work with.
The last time I looked I think Mike Cass was playing a GFI. Now he is a well known p/p guru. I think our instrument is tough enough to learn to play with out creating more problems with a antiquated guitar.
After you learn to play and make your first million buy a ton of old beauties.
The most beautiful guitar I ever laid eyes on was a Baldwin Sho-Bud crossover . Anyone want to tackle that darlin ? Old Bud[This message was edited by Willis Vanderberg on 01 June 2006 at 11:26 AM.] |
John Billings
Member From: Northfield Center, Ohio, USA
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posted 01 June 2006 01:41 PM
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James M. "I like to use a rubber band or two if I find a little slack." I only do that if I can't find the men's room!
Most of my "workin'" life, I used a Kline. Now I have a beautiful old Shobud S-10. Ricky managed to get 6 knee levers on it, and it's a double-raise, single-lower guitar. If you know what you're doin', and Ricky and John Coop know what they're doin'. you can do an awful lot with this relatively simple, supposedly antiquated system! |
James Morehead
Member From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 01 June 2006 05:33 PM
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If you like the old vint shobuds and don't mind spending a few bux to refurb it, you can have the best of both worlds---new mechanics under an old vintage bud. John Coop did a fabulous job on mine, and it will last anothet thirty years. Some folks wouldn't give a hoot to refurb an old bud, but some of us are thrilled with one that's redone and resurrected. To each there own. Steel guitars come in many styles and shapes---because one style doesn't work for everybody. That's the tough part--finding what YOU personnally like. I have bought several buds that just needed some cleaning, adjustment, and some TLC, and they played just fine with no problems. Take em and gig with them. That's what Alex might try to find. He could play it for awhile and sell it and move on. OR he could refurb it if he happens to like the guitar. Either way, there's plenty of help on the forum. |
Damir Besic
Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 01 June 2006 06:19 PM
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Sho~Bud will outplay any of the "modern" guitars, good LDG,or Pro series are pro guitars and if you get a good Sho~Bud it will last you for the rest of your life.And one more thing,after 20 or 25 years your Sho~Bud will be worth more than it is now and all of those "modern" guitars will be long gone.I can`t believe some statements here like "it`s old" or "It`s heavy" or "the pros don`t play it"..what in the world is that all about...just go and try a Sho~Bud and you`ll be happy,it will sound like a steel guitar is supposed to sound,and when you get to be 80 years old and Pro II becomes too heavy for you than trade it for..let see...Pro I...haDamir Sho~Bud freak Besic ------------------
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Greg Cutshaw
Member From: Corry, PA, USA
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posted 01 June 2006 07:19 PM
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I bought a used Sho-Bud and played it happily for 15 years. It looked great and recorded great. A guitar does not have to be mechanically advanced as most any guitar can be played in tune with experience. The tone of the old Buds can be exhiliarating and for many, greatly overcomes any mechanical shortcomings. I've mostly owned workhorse guitars that were bought new by others and the undercarriages were always a mishmash of hardware and that never bothered me. If the tone is there, and you have the mechanicals rebuilt, you can have the best possible guitar: looks, tone and mechanics. Greg 
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David Doggett
Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 01 June 2006 09:26 PM
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Well, there you have it, Alex. Now you are catching the flavor of the Sho-Bud mystique. Every one of them has it in spades. And the resale value just seems to keep going up, expecially over on eBay. |
Kenny Drake
Member From: Leesburg, Virginia, USA
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posted 02 June 2006 08:20 AM
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I wonder what the market value for the Sho~Buds would be if there weren't folks like Leon Roberts, John Coop, Bobbe, Duane, Ricky and the others whose restorations keep these guitars in top form and playing like new. With their expertise and skills it seems there are no "cons" to owning a Sho~Bud except finding one. There hasn't been a new one made in many years, but they are still one of the most sought after brand guitars out there. Thanks to all who keep these beautiful guitars from fading into history. I wouldn't trade one of my Sho~Buds for anything being made today. I own a modern steel from one of the top manufacturers, but it doesn't compare to my old Sho~Buds in any way. There will always be a market for these fine instruments. |
Damir Besic
Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 02 June 2006 06:07 PM
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I just purchased a `60s Sho~Bud perminent from the forum member.Guitar is 40 years old restored on outside and Bobbe is as we speak working on the undercariage...Tone....well,ask Bobbe ...there is nothing like Sho~Bud...if you`re looking for a all pull guitar..well..I`m not,I got what I was looking for 
`60s Sho~Bud perminent it will be a great friend to my 1928 Gibson L-3
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[This message was edited by Damir Besic on 02 June 2006 at 06:12 PM.]
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Ricky Littleton
Member From: Steely-Eyed Missile Man from Orlando, Florida USA
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posted 03 June 2006 06:21 AM
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PRO - I want one.CON - I don't have one. Ricky... ------------------
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Al Marcus
Member From: Cedar Springs,MI USA
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posted 04 June 2006 08:58 PM
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I had a pre-Pro 1 with the rack and barrel setup with 5 pedals and 5 knee levers.I owned it for 16 years, great sound and easy playing. Also very beautiful Birdseye. I wanted a 12 string, so sold it to HowardR, was sorry and tried to buy it back. No soap. I owned other guitars during that time but found the sound and easy setup changing of the Sho-Bud to top the list. I got lucky and bought a Pro 1 from the original owner with 3 and 2 and had John Coop get me the parts to make it a 6 and 5. Tuned E6-E9. My Good Michigan Friend ,Fred Welch, did a great job in putting it together, and it is really nice and sounds great, of couse, and has that Sh0-Bud beauty, rounded front, etc.
It has the 2 hold puller and with the barrel tuners has practically no tuning limitations. I used to own 2 professional D10's and a Super Pro D10, and the prof. were really heavy. So the pro 1 is so much lighter and easy to carry. I can still play anything I want on it, but I kinda still miss the extra 2 strings. But one problem, I have to tune it about once a week. LOL...al ------------------
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