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John Drury Member From: Gallatin, Tn USA |
posted 12 December 2005 07:44 AM
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Jim, I remember having to always put newspaper or something under most of the Brit bikes that I owned over the years. I think the worst was my old GoldStar BSA. In cold weather it developed a problem that the mechanics referred to as "wet sumped" and it would pour oil out through a breather in large amounts. My old Harleys were even worse! Newspaper wouldn't cut it, drain pans front to rear were required. They would leak oil from the engine, tranny, chaincase, you name it! All bikes that I owned back in those days shook like a dog crapping a log chain! We owe a lot to whoever came up with the counterbalancer. Lucas electronics, now there is another story! It is nice these days to go for a ride without filling my saddlebags with headlight bulbs, taillight bulbs, Zener diodes, and voltage regulators. Bobbe Seymour once told me a joke about why the British drink warm beer, it had something to do with Lucas wiring in the refigerators over there. Ride safe ------------------ |
Gene Jones Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA |
posted 12 December 2005 08:09 AM
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Triump was also one of the last to include starters on their bikes. I bought one of those kickers once, rode it home and never did get it started again.After nearly having a heart attack from exhaustion I took it back and bought a Yamaha (with a starter)! ------------------ |
John Drury Member From: Gallatin, Tn USA |
posted 12 December 2005 08:27 AM
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Gene, Not long ago I came across a website that had some interesting stats about different features that became available on different motorcycles over the years. They listed Indian as the first with electric start and it was back in 1914 I believe! Indian was also the first to use a twist grip throttle. They listed the british Scott as the first bike to have a foot shift. Ride safe ------------------ |
Gene Jones Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA |
posted 12 December 2005 09:51 AM
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Harley wasn't very quick to add a starter either. I owned one of the first Harleys with an electric starter...a 1965 Panhead. I guess Harley didn't trust the reliability of that first starter because the bike also came with a "kick starter" backup. It's a good thing that it did, because the charging system wouldn't keep enough juice in the battery and I still had to kick-start much of the time! I never had a weight problem in those days! ------------------ |
BobbeSeymour Member From: Hendersonville TN USA |
posted 12 December 2005 11:08 AM
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Electric start? What will they think of next!
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jim milewski Member From: stowe, vermont |
posted 12 December 2005 02:38 PM
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John, ya, the Brits were well known for oil leaks, vibration, and questionable electrics. I had a Bonnie that sent so much oil out the breather I had to route it to the oil tank and vent the tank. Yamabond #2 is an excellent gasket compound, best I've found. What I liked about the Triumphs was at least I could fix most problems, even those on the side of the road and get home |
John Drury Member From: Gallatin, Tn USA |
posted 12 December 2005 05:57 PM
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Jim M., You were one of the Triumph aficionados I was referring to in an earlier post, did you see the picture of the Tri-Kaw? Funny, the Kaw W-650 looks more like a Triumph than the Triumphs! ------------------ |
BobbeSeymour Member From: Hendersonville TN USA |
posted 12 December 2005 06:09 PM
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I sure do love and deeply respect my Triumph Trophy III, but then, what do I know, I'm just a steel guitar guy. BMW, Triumph, don't know whats in my future, |
John Drury Member From: Gallatin, Tn USA |
posted 12 December 2005 08:19 PM
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Bobbe, You wouldn't have liked the original Triumphs, they had the Day set-up on the pedals! LMAO! ------------------ |
Jerry Hayes Member From: Virginia Beach, Va. |
posted 13 December 2005 11:35 AM
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Had a Cushman Eagle many years ago before I went in the Army. When I got out I got a small Honda for a little while before getting one of those Kawasaki 500s with three cylinders and a lot of power. The engine was a two stroke and smoked like hell. I had a VW bug at the time that got better gas mileage than the bike! My current ride is a Kawasaki Vulcan 800 Cruiser which looks like a Harley but then again a lot of 'em do nowadays, don't they? It's got the windshield, saddlebags, etc. but it's too dang cold to ride these days. Man I wish I was back in Southern California!...JH in Va. ------------------ |
John Drury Member From: Gallatin, Tn USA |
posted 13 December 2005 02:39 PM
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Jerry, My first Cushman looked just like this. It was a 1953.
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Jerry Roller Member From: Van Buren, Arkansas USA |
posted 13 December 2005 02:56 PM
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I guess I best report in. When I was 9 years old there was a Whizzer motor bike at my house, not sure who it belonged to. When I was 12 I got my first Cushman scooter, at age 13 I had a 40's Harley 125 with the rubber band front suspension. At 14 I got a very nice 53 Harley 125 which looked like new. I loved that one and would like to have it now in the condition it was in. After I started driving a car at age 16 I traded the 125 off and never had a motorcycle again until 3 months ago I bought a '02 Yamaha V Star. My son who used to ride motorcycles got bit by the bug when he rode mine on a cruise one day and he now has an '02 Yamaha Road Star. We have had a ball riding together. He is a fine 6 string player so we also get to play music together on Friday and Sunday nights. Jerry |
John Drury Member From: Gallatin, Tn USA |
posted 13 December 2005 03:59 PM
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Jerry, Something like this? These bikes are actually German DKW copies, after the "Big One" Harley Davidson, and BSA were given the DKW factory to split up. The bike became the H-D Hummer over here and the BSA Bantam in England. That tank shape is used on H-D's to this day, but credit should go to the Krauts for the design. I had a 1957 Hummer, it was the 165cc version and had a telescopic front end a 6V electrical system. It was a fun bike! ------------------ [This message was edited by John Drury on 13 December 2005 at 04:19 PM.] |
Jim Phelps Member From: just out of Mexico City |
posted 13 December 2005 04:49 PM
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Well I'll be darned, if you hadn't told me I'd have thought that was a Sportster tank. The first Sportster! So this is where my Sportster descended from... Any idea what year that bike is? Sure is perfect, no doubt a total piece-by-piece every nut and bolt restoration, the only way to do it. [This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 13 December 2005 at 04:52 PM.] |
Jerry Roller Member From: Van Buren, Arkansas USA |
posted 13 December 2005 05:09 PM
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Wow John, that is it exactly. It was a 125cc and there were large rubber bands up it the top of the sissor type suspension. I am sure it was a 194- something because the '53 had a telescopic front suspension. Man, that photo brings back a lot of memories. I would love to have one just like that now. I think they went to a 165 cc around 1955 and had an optional highrise handlebar. Thanks for the photo. Jerry |
John Drury Member From: Gallatin, Tn USA |
posted 13 December 2005 05:18 PM
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Jim, That one is a 1949, I think it was the last year for the rubber band front suspension. After that they went to a Hydra-Glide type setup. They also dropped the Bosch electrics around this time. My 57 was Delco, also 6V. All of the Hummers used the German Bing carburetors. I remember my 1968 Sportster had a Bosch regulator, but a delco generator, and a Fairbanks-Morse magneto, no battery. Sitting at a light at night we had to keep them revved to around a thousand RPM's to keep from getting hit in the ass by a cager. The regulators would go bad after a couple dozen trips through the two bit car wash. After forking over $65- a couple times at the H-D shop I wised up and went to a V-W dealership and got the same thing for about eight dollars. A mag could be had off of a Wisconsin V-Twin for about thirty bucks, and the Tillotson carb rebuild kits could be bought at any snowmobile dealership for a few dollars. As far as the Sportster tank...........well, now you know the rest of the story. BTW, the first year of the Sportster was 1957, the year after the last K Model wich was the same thing only a 750cc flathead. A photo of me and my 68 PaintShaker. [This message was edited by John Drury on 13 December 2005 at 06:00 PM.] |
B. Greg Jones Member From: London, KY USA |
posted 13 December 2005 08:09 PM
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Good lookin' piece of Iron there John!!!!! Greg |
John Drury Member From: Gallatin, Tn USA |
posted 13 December 2005 08:28 PM
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Greg, Thanks man, I put a lot of work in that bike! H-D chrome back then was pretty sorry so I had all chrome stripped and replated. I then chromed a lot of additional pieces, oil tank, rocker boxes, headlight and taillight housing, voltage regulator cover, kick stand, and spokes, with nickel plated spoke nipples, along with every bolt head and nut on the bike. The paint was the Royal Maroon from the 1969 Lincoln Mark III. It was truly a beautiful bike! I had a ton of money in that one! ------------------ |
Gene Jones Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA |
posted 14 December 2005 05:25 AM
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I luv those pristine Harleys. Greaaat looking Sportster John....you can plant your feet flat on the ground with that one! Here's another one of my favorite bikes, my 1982 FXB (all belt) Sturgis Shovel, (me and the wife rode it to the 1982 Sturgis Rally where it drew lots of attention)! [This message was edited by Gene Jones on 17 December 2005 at 12:06 PM.] |
John Drury Member From: Gallatin, Tn USA |
posted 14 December 2005 06:26 AM
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Gene, I remember those bikes, very smooth running machines! ------------------ |
John Drury Member From: Gallatin, Tn USA |
posted 15 December 2005 05:52 PM
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For you steelers that are into old Brit bikes, here is an oldie that I happened onto at a vintage meet up in MI a while back. I thought it was a Brough Superior at first but upon closer inspection it turned out to be a BSA, I think the guy said it was a 1929. The mill looks just like a J.A.P., except for the single pushrod tubes, all the J.A.P.'s I have ever seen have 2 tubes per cylinder. I will be glad when it warms up a bit so I can get back to riding them instead of looking at pictures of them! ------------------ |
BobbeSeymour Member From: Hendersonville TN USA |
posted 16 December 2005 01:11 PM
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I am astounded at the number of Nashville steel players that ride "them cycles". Many more than I thought. Weldon Myrick have spent may an hour riding in the past, along with many many studio players. If I started naming them all, it would go on forever. This makes me realize that there must be, as this thread shows, thousands of steel players that love to feel the wind in their hair in the daytime as much as they like the smoke in the clubs at night. I just love the soul and charictor, the nuts and bolts, the great sounds and smells that these silly machines emanate, wow,this sounds like I'm describing a steel guitar, huh? Bobbe "PuttPutt" Seymour |
John Drury Member From: Gallatin, Tn USA |
posted 16 December 2005 02:40 PM
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Bobbe, Now that you mention it, there are a lot of paralells between the two activities, for instance a motorcycle has handle bars / most steels get played in bars! A motorcycle has spokes / most players in Nashville have played at the Broken Spoke! A bike has a gas tank / steel amps have a reverb tank! I could go on and on! As Jay Leno would say, there are a lot of eerie similarities here LMAO! ------------------ |
BobbeSeymour Member From: Hendersonville TN USA |
posted 16 December 2005 06:54 PM
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Pedals, gotta' use both hands, "Pick" your way through traffic, Both make GREAT sounds, both have Pac-a-seats, working either one of them gets you the same money, unless you are a lucky ole' pro! Your wife gripes when you bring either one of them in the house. Both need tune-ups once a year! Ha! Both weigh the same! Yea, lotta' sims here! |
John Drury Member From: Gallatin, Tn USA |
posted 17 December 2005 06:07 AM
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Another shot of an old BSA V-Twin found on the net. This one must be in a museum or in someones collection. They were very cool looking old bikes! ------------------ |
Jim Phelps Member From: just out of Mexico City |
posted 17 December 2005 12:03 PM
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Wow! No fiberglass or ABS plastic on that one. My kinda bike.... well, except that I couldn't afford to buy one in a million years and even if I could, it's too antique to ride... but I love it. |
John Drury Member From: Gallatin, Tn USA |
posted 17 December 2005 06:16 PM
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Jim, Not the average Beezer for sure. I have always been a proponent of the V-Twin motorcycles. My other bike is this Ace1100, one of Hondas finer efforts. Can't imagine why they dropped the bike from their line up after only 5 years. ------------------ |
John Drury Member From: Gallatin, Tn USA |
posted 21 December 2005 06:47 AM
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It appears as though they are bringing back another of the great British marques! And they upped the displacement to 962cc's! Check it out at www.nortonmotorcycles.com ------------------ |
jim milewski Member From: stowe, vermont |
posted 21 December 2005 08:49 AM
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John, I remember the first Kawasaki 650 twins back in the sixties, they were a copy of the BSA A10 (I think), air cooled pre unit. I used to ride with a guy who had a 66 Harley CH like yours, spark advance/retard on left grip, he would go down the road, hold down the kill button, retard the timing, keep the clutch engaged, suck in a ton of unignited raw fuel, then release the kill button, KAPOW!!! sounded like a shotgun with loooong flames, he was a one man light show, drag his cleats on the road with sparks like rooster tails than a big backfire |
Kevin Hatton Member From: Amherst, N.Y. |
posted 21 December 2005 09:18 AM
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Motorcycles are death machines. Its not a matter of IF you will get in an accident, only WHEN. I know a steel guitar player that had the lower right half of his bottom leg taken off two years ago. I am getting ready right now to go see my former girlfriend in the long term care ward of the local county hospital. She went off the back of a Harley at sixty miles per hour after they hit a deer. That was five months ago. She is in persistent vegetative state. I have to go up there every day and see her in diapers clutching little stuffed toys with her body weight down to 90 lbs. Take it from me folks. I've seen it over and over. Do NOT get on a motorcycle. [This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 21 December 2005 at 09:25 AM.] |
Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA |
posted 21 December 2005 10:44 AM
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My son-in-law was killed on his bike. The grief he left behind is immeasurable. There's no turning back. We will never really recover. When I want something shiny that makes a loud noise, I play my pedal steel. When I need to get somewhere, I drive a car. Sorry for the dampening sidebar, but I know one little girl whose Christmas would be a whole lot better if her Daddy was still here with her. Think about it next time you ride. He was the best driver I've ever known. In the end, that made no difference at all. ------------------ |
John Drury Member From: Gallatin, Tn USA |
posted 21 December 2005 12:26 PM
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Bobby Lee, My extreme condolences on the loss of your son-in-law. My heart also goes out to Kevin Hatton for what he is going through. I sent him a seperate e-mail to that effect. I would also like to express my condolences to the family of Mike Hailwood, for those of you that aren't familiar with the name, googol him. Mike was the most successful motorcycle racer of all time. I believe he won the Isle of Mann TT in Great Britain a record six or seven times. Mike rode motorcycles on the road and race track for many years without a serious incident. He was known by all in the motorcycling world as "Mike the Bike". He was killed in a car wreck in his mid size Beemer in his late forties. Bob, I started this thread in fun but it will no longer amuse me to post here, so I would consider it a personal favor if you would close it for me. Thanks for the use of your forum and Happy Holidays. ------------------ |
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