He is now disabled and would like to sell it, even though it has not yet been delivered.

The post was closed, thru no fault of his own. I think it turned into an argument of if the guitar even existed.

He trusted Emmons and expected them to work with him.

Today I recieved this email form him:

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they didn't pay me back my $4500
the case is with the attorney general but till today they didn't respond till them

I can't find the words, but this is what I never had expected from a company...
well just to let you know that this or my writing on the forum wasn't just air but honestly true.

greetings
cor

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If anyone could find the original post, please post it.

I think this is the one you want Joey.

I can tell you guys that Cor is the most honest man in The Netherlands when it comes to a fair deal.He delivered me some great steel guitar parts that he had no use for.I took them of his hands for a small amount of money.I got 2 endplates,2George L's66,2fretboards(Emmons),2aluminum necks(Emmons)and i paid the man(i think)$300...could be a bit more...but not much.What i want to say is that this man needs our support.If you see this message Cor Please give me a call.

Ron

[This message was edited by Ronald Steenwijk on 13 September 2004 at 10:34 AM.]

I now recall what happened. The post was closed because Rebecca Lashley requested b0b close it.
b0b on vacation and sent me an email requesting I close it.

Anyway the matter is not resolved.

After reading the old post again, I believe that if Emmons can provide proof that Cor's guitar actually has been built (actually finished and sitting in a corner somewhere collecting dust), then Emmons should have the right to wait until the guitar is sold before paying back the money. If it has not been built, then Cor should receive a refund (maybe minus a cancellation charge). The key here is proof that the guitar exists at Emmons.

My suggestion to Cor is to take delivery of the guitar and try to sell it. I don't think Emmons is going to put any effort into selling your guitar for you. Why should they? They already have his money.

i found out with help of danny hullihen,
that the guitar is never build from the date december 2003 when i paid actually for my first order, and after i paid they said it was sold (very tricky) but then i ask build a new one and they never did till now

i will find another way to reach people and talk about this unexpected thing.

greetings

cor,jr

[This message was edited by Cor Muizer Jr on 13 September 2004 at 12:22 PM.]

And Cor....why don't you take the steel and sell it overhere...whe have a steelmeeting next year...There are a lot of guys that would like to have that axe.Just put it on the net and sell it to someone in The Netherlands or another country nearby.I can't come up with that kind of money otherwise i would say sell it to me.Maybe in a couple of months i can but not right now.But whatever you do........let them deliver the steel.....You payed for it.

There will be someone that would love this steel.It sounds great from what i hear.

the guitar is never build !!!!!!!!!!!!

Ron

[This message was edited by Ronald Steenwijk on 13 September 2004 at 01:36 PM.]

cor,jr.

[This message was edited by Cor Muizer Jr on 13 September 2004 at 01:24 PM.]

thanks but it is my word to them or reverse
and you know that. but this is true and i would never ever told that if it wasn't

because i was an emmons lover and i still am ( even if i can't play pedalsteel anymore )!

cor,jr

[This message was edited by Cor Muizer Jr on 13 September 2004 at 02:08 PM.]

I hope the guy gets his money.

just read carefully the steel is never build till now and al i ask is send my money back that's it.

cor

[This message was edited by Cor Muizer Jr on 14 September 2004 at 08:46 AM.]

farris currie wrote:

credit where credit is due!give RON JR.a big
hand,he is working hard to save EMMONS.IT'S a
real load to still build a top steel,and keep
a clear mind!it's gotta take its toal on thinking,when struggling with all the other
problems.I respect RON JR.very much,and pray
he can really get it going.from a bussiness
man in the past,hard to keep all going straight.not many good night rests.
farris

[This message was edited by Cor Muizer Jr on 14 September 2004 at 09:08 AM.]

When the post was closed, he respectfully kept it off the Forum. Only recently did he write to me to inform me the matter is still not resolved.

I am the one that posted his update.

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if he owed me 4500.00 i'd be sitting on his doorstep!!

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But, what is the point of starting this all over again?

Cor, if you haven't already, get a lawyer and start the process of getting your money back. If you sent money in the mail, you may have a basis for mail fraud (and you may want to contact the USPS to get their suggestion as to how to proceed). If you used a credit card, dispute the charge. You will almost certainly get a resolution this way.

Unless someone pops up on here to say they will contact Ron on your behalf, I'm not sure what this thread will accomplish. The fact is, we only have one side of the story, and there is no obligation (or expectation) for Emmons Steel Guitar Co. to come on to a public forum to resolve a private issue.

Again, I really hope that if Cor did lose money, that he gets his money back and that the Emmons Steel Guitar Co. is reprimanded. If the Emmons Steel Guitar Co. is without fault in this case (we don't know their story), then I hope that those facts come to light.

In either case, I just hope this gets settled one way or other....but the facts today are that nothing has changed.

Not really much left to say until something happens....

but it is already laying by the attorney general but even they didn't have a response from emmons till now

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he was told at that time a month or so back, that the guitar wasn't even built at that time

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but emmons have to pay me back and if they didn't i would that everybody know's that al over the entire world
so go on here.

anyway thanks again

cor

[This message was edited by Cor Muizer Jr on 14 September 2004 at 02:45 PM.]