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Emmons on E9, original Jimmy Day setup on C6!

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The comfort thing can be overcome with time and practice. Most can only play one way because they have only trained those muscles. Most peoples ankles are so tight they can't make all the necessary moves so they eliminate licks and possibilities from the get go.

IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT SETUP you use the movements are all the same!!! Think about it through the big picture. Outside rock and inside rock. You need to make them both. If your over AB and move to BC (either set-up) the ankle still has an outside rock and and inside rock.

most pedal problems come from underconditioned players with very limited physical dexterity. No Physcology involved in the use of the ankle and knees. Mostly lack of flexibility to make all of the moves needed. Of course a lot of straight country can be played by mashing ab or bc together.

Some things to work on...

I would contend that rocking on and off the pedal raising 4 and 5 while leaving the 'B' pedal engaged is far less common than doing the same with the 5th and 10th 'raise'; it is physically easier for me to lift my big toe than it is my little one. Therefore, I'm comfortable with my 'Day' set-up. I just asked my wife to try the same thing; she found the same thing I did, even though she's never sat behind a steel.

Yes, I can play a little bit on an 'Emmons' set-up, but it's nothing like as comfortable for physiological reasons as my own guitar. The mental side - remembering the reversed 'knees' - is, I agree, a simple matter of acclimatisation, and not a big hurdle.

As for your declaration that "...all players should be able to play both", I have my doubts that very many actually can with complete freedom - I'd bet that even the 'heaviest of hitters' have a strong preference for one set-up or the other.....

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Roger Rettig
Emmons LGIII(S10/D10)& MCI D10

Had I been on the Forum four years ago and known of the big names and the many who use the Day setup as I was then, I never would have changed. It shows the value of The Forum and your good thinking in posing the question in the first place, Me hats off to you, Mate; as Tony and Anne Marie would say !!

I, too, would have guessed one or two in a hundred, butI wonder if we're getting a greater proportion of the 'Day' players actually posting here, thereby giving a false impression.

Last summer, while playing in Norfolk, VA, I called in to Billy and Wanda Cooper's store in Orange - he had over fifty guitars set up on display and, guess what, not one had the 'Day' pedals!

This is in no way a criticism of Billy's great store, incidentally, but his inventory seems to indicate a much lower ratio than we're seeing here.

I'm seriously thinking of setting up one of my guitars the wrong (Emmons ) way round so I can learn both......

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Roger Rettig
Emmons LGIII(S10/D10)& MCI D10

Wonder where those OZARK boys are. Lot of talent up that way and I'd bet Dave Musgrave, being the Chalker fan he was way back in those good ole days (Alaska 1966 on a Fender 1000 with the rollers removed....) has the DAY setup.

BTW, which one does Buddy play?.....ha!

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'01 Zumsteel D-10 8&9

Now what do you call Sonny Curtis setup?
Maybe Upside down and backwards or a little of both--------- I dont know??

In good company:

Tommy White

John Hughey

Hal Rugg

Corky Owens

Norm Hamlet

Jeff Newman

Weldon ??

Any other big names I forgot?

I didn't know it had been done in Feb/02. Next time I will search before launching!

I think I will probably stick with DAY.

[This message was edited by Bill Fulbright on 01 December 2002 at 07:39 PM.]

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