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Topic: A whole new ERA for the Sho-Bud
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Nick Reed
Member From: Springfield, TN
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posted 24 October 2005 02:29 PM
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Looks like the "Shot Jackson family" that once built those fine Sho-Bud steel guitars are tooling up for whole new phase in the PSG industry. Folks, were getting ready to witness the reincarination of the Sho-Bud (under a new name of course) but built by the original Sho-Bud family. This is Awesome News and very exciting! www.jacksonsteelguitars.com
www.shobudmusic.com [This message was edited by Nick Reed on 26 October 2005 at 03:05 PM.]
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Bob Carlucci
Member From: Candor, New York, USA
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posted 24 October 2005 02:32 PM
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Interesting!
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Glenn Austin
Member From: Montreal, Canada
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posted 24 October 2005 02:46 PM
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There's no Budness like Sho-Budness ! |
Tony Prior
Member From: Charlotte NC
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posted 24 October 2005 03:37 PM
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Interesting for sure..Interesting that the website links a bunch of things together.. The Jackson Steel, Dawn Jackson and Dawn Jacksons music with NO Steel.. I do find that a bit curious.. |
Ricky Davis
Moderator From: Spring, Texas USA
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posted 24 October 2005 05:36 PM
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You mean the "Jackson Steel" don't you??
It won't be a Sho-bud; as David Jackson ain't gunna call it a Sho-bud.
So; NO, there is not a whole new era for Sho-bud; but a new era for a new Steel guitar possibly.
When and if me and John Coop buy the Sho-bud company; we will certainly call it a Sho-bud.....  
Ricky |
JOHN COOP
Member From: YORKTOWN, IND. USA
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posted 24 October 2005 06:17 PM
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>[This message was edited by JOHN COOP on 25 October 2005 at 12:33 PM.] |
Eric West
Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA
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posted 24 October 2005 06:19 PM
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I wonder if we'll see Sho-Bud™ condoms?
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EJL[This message was edited by Eric West on 24 October 2005 at 06:26 PM.] |
Nick Reed
Member From: Springfield, TN
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posted 24 October 2005 07:10 PM
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Maybe they'll make some condoms out of pot metal Oh, that won't work. . . .they'd break![This message was edited by Nick Reed on 24 October 2005 at 07:44 PM.] |
Ricky Davis
Moderator From: Spring, Texas USA
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posted 24 October 2005 07:44 PM
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I can dig Nick....yes in a way "Reincarnated" from the David Jackson design of Sho-bud....
Oh and the "when and if" me and John buy Sho-bud comment is of course the last thing in the world I'd ever try to do...>sho-bud died in 1976 and I would always let it rest in piece....
Ricky |
Nick Reed
Member From: Springfield, TN
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posted 24 October 2005 11:36 PM
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Here's my Sho-Bud Pro-1, It's a keeper but I still can't wait to try out one of the new Jackson Guitars!   Even though I'm a die-hard Emmons man, I've always thought the Sho-Bud's were the most beautiful Steels ever built. I think the Jackson Guitar will look alot like this Sho-Bud did. With modern updated machanics, that classic Sho-Bud sound and these cosmetics. . . . .David Jackson is gonna have one hell of a good guitar! I've already told Bobbe to get ready to place my order. NR [This message was edited by Nick Reed on 27 October 2005 at 01:27 PM.] |
Charlie McDonald
Member From: Lubbock, Texas, USA
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posted 25 October 2005 04:36 AM
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It looks pretty nice to me, and it might just be affordable.... |
Ray Minich
Member From: Limestone, New York, USA
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posted 25 October 2005 05:35 AM
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Now I'm really confused. At the website http://www.jacksonsteelguitars.com/ there's a photo of an S-10 in the lower left corner, then above that another graphic of several strings, with what appear to be two shiny round cylindrical objects concentric with a couple of the strings.
What are these two shiny barrel thingys??? Inquiring minds want to know...[This message was edited by Ray Minich on 25 October 2005 at 05:36 AM.] |
James Morehead
Member From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 25 October 2005 06:22 AM
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Ray, It looks to me to be a bar(steel) laying on the strings, and you see a reflection underneath. You are looking at the END of the bar. But I ain't got my glasses on yet, or have the influence of COFFEE yet!! HA! |
Charles Dempsey
Member From: The Cradle of the Stars.
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posted 25 October 2005 06:26 AM
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Interesting. Here's the domain whois info: quote:
Registrant:
Jackson Steel Guitar
74980 N. Fulton Ave
Armada, Michigan 48005
United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: JACKSONSTEELGUITARS.COM
Created on: 14-Jul-05
Expires on: 14-Jul-07
Last Updated on: 27-Jul-05 Administrative Contact:
Barnes, Sandra sandra@ardnesdesign.com
Ardnes Design
74980 N. Fulton Ave
Armada, Michigan 48005
United States
18107848720
Technical Contact:
Barnes, Sandra sandra@ardnesdesign.com
Ardnes Design
74980 N. Fulton Ave
Armada, Michigan 48005
United States
18107848720
Ardnes Design seems to be a website design company. That's their address listed in the contacts, not Jackson Guitars (unless they're the same). Charlie |
JOHN COOP
Member From: YORKTOWN, IND. USA
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posted 25 October 2005 06:35 AM
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>[This message was edited by JOHN COOP on 25 October 2005 at 12:31 PM.] |
GARYPHILLIPS
Member From: SOMERSET, OHIO ,PERRY
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posted 25 October 2005 06:56 AM
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Im' goin to Jackson
jack-bud
sho-jack------------------
Gary Phillips
JUST-N-CASE PLUS
D-10 8/5 Desert Rose Steel Guitar
& D-10 8/5 Rains Steel Guitar |
James Morehead
Member From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 25 October 2005 07:02 AM
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I'm a sucker for beautiful guitars! Dang! [This message was edited by James Morehead on 26 October 2005 at 07:22 AM.] |
Sonny Priddy
Member From: Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA
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posted 25 October 2005 08:19 AM
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From What I Can See Look's Good To Me.I'm With Nick I'd Like To Try One Out. SONNY.------------------
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Mike Weirauch
Member From: Harrisburg, Illinois**The Hub of the Universe
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posted 25 October 2005 09:38 AM
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"A rose by any other name still smells like a rose." I would think everyone would be excited about this new venture but Ricky and John seem dismayed by it's appearance. I bet the final product strongly favors a Sho~Bud and I would venture to say that David has went to great lengths to make it "sound" like a Sho~Bud but what would I know, my mind is sometimes open.  |
Nick Reed
Member From: Springfield, TN
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posted 25 October 2005 10:12 AM
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I was told today by a very reliable source, that Fred Gretch has not owned the Sho-Bud name for quite sometime now. Fact is, it was purchased by "Dawn Jackson" (Shot's Grandaughter) in 2001. She made a deal to buy the name back from Gretch Guitar Co, so she could call her publishing company & record label SHO-BUD Music.
I'm guessing that Jackson Steel Guitar Co. USA will be a division of Sho-Bud Music. It's obviously been in the works for sometime now. This is exciting to see David Jackson back at doing what he did best. . . . .building quality Steel Guitars here in Nashville again.
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Cliff Kane
Member From: Long Beach, CA
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posted 25 October 2005 10:18 AM
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 [This message was edited by b0b on 25 October 2005 at 10:20 AM.] ***b0b: thanks for the editing; I'm not sure what you did, but thanks!
Cliff[This message was edited by Cliff Kane on 25 October 2005 at 10:35 AM.] |
Steve Dodson
Member From: Sparta, Tennessee, USA
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posted 25 October 2005 10:31 AM
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Doesn't say much from a professional point of view, when one starts to put down someone else's product. Also before they have a chance to check it out first hand. Sounds more like they are concerned about the competition it could cause them. A True Pro at his Craft will not bad mouth another craftsman. Two fine example's are Paul Franklin SR, of Franklin Guitars and Bruce Zumsteg of the ZumSteel Guitar. Either of these gentlemen have never ever been heard or overheard putting down any of the other builders. I have talked with both of these True Craftsman and when they where talking about their craft and the way they construct their guitars, they talk only about their process. They don't spend their time telling you why their guitar is better than another Brand. They only speak of their craft,and not putting down someone else's. These are two Fine example's of true Craftsmen. Thats why you don't see them on the forum putting down the other brands, they are confident in what they are building and that speaks for itself. When you see one of their guitars on the forum, they don't last long, and you don't see too many come through. Mike your mind may be open but its in the right Direction. [This message was edited by Steve Dodson on 25 October 2005 at 10:37 AM.] |
Bill Hatcher
Member From: Atlanta Ga. USA
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posted 25 October 2005 10:35 AM
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Good point Dodson! |
Ricky Davis
Moderator From: Spring, Texas USA
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posted 25 October 2005 10:38 AM
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Mike; nowhere in my posts did I say I didn't like the Steel David is building. My comments are the Sho-bud name issue. I don't know what his steel is like yet; I haven't seen one up close or played one; as why I haven't commented about the Steel itself.
Ricky |
Duane Reese
Member From: Salt Lake County, Utah
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posted 25 October 2005 11:17 AM
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Wow... If Dawn Jackson owns the Sho-Bud name (I thought it was still Gretsch too) then why can't they make them under that name? I'm sure they have a reason.
Well, let's wait until they come out and see how they are... |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 25 October 2005 11:22 AM
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Steve Dodson, I think you'll have many folks agreeing with your post, whether they post it or not, I've been holding back waiting for a response like yours, you said it, thank you.
These guys seem to forget or never knew that David Jackson built and designed all the Sho-Bud steel guitars from '66 up to the end, except for the "Super Pro II". And I doubt if these "detractors" have ever even seen one of the SP-IIs themselves.
Just my opinion, yes, I agree completely. Bobbe |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 25 October 2005 11:25 AM
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Why shouldn't David Jackson use the "Jackson " name only? Buddy isn't helping him any longer, so why use the "Bud"?
Sho-Bud name no longer applies. |
Duane Reese
Member From: Salt Lake County, Utah
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posted 25 October 2005 11:33 AM
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But that's kind of like saying that the name Gibson no longer applies to Gibson guitars because Orville Gibson is gone. Maybe he is just trying to show off the heritage, but make a point that it's not a Sho-Bud, by calling it Jackson Steel Guitars.
[This message was edited by Duane Reese on 25 October 2005 at 12:23 PM.] |
Mike Weirauch
Member From: Harrisburg, Illinois**The Hub of the Universe
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posted 25 October 2005 12:12 PM
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Ricky, nowhere in my post did I say that you did. I should edit my post and have it say re-appearance as I was referring to the legacy rather than the guitar. I would think this venture would create some excitement among the Sho~Bud players as it is spawned straight from the loins of Sho~Bud regardless of any personal differences or feelings anyone might have. Nothing says this cannot rise from the ashes like a phoenix and fly. After all, David is the one who is credited with designing the Sho~Bud guitars from at least 1970 up into the 80's. This will be something to sit back and watch. |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 25 October 2005 12:32 PM
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Correct Mike, David was the soul steel guitar designer, builder,president of Music City Mfg., and was a total "hands on guy" from '66 to '85. Then Fred Gretsch continued to build the identical guitars 'til the end. 1999.
David Jackson is the most underated designer, builder in the world of steel guitar. It's a shame no one knows where the Sho-Bud designs really came from and who did this great work in the past. David built over 98 percent of all Sho-Buds ever built, not his father. The greatest thing his father did for the world of steel guitar was to create David himself. Thank you Shot! |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 25 October 2005 12:36 PM
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If David tools up and puts out a production product the way he did in the 60's through the 80s, look out world, history of steel guitar will have to be rewritten. I think we will all be better off, I feel there is a place for David's work in the "new world of steel guitar". |
Cliff Kane
Member From: Long Beach, CA
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posted 25 October 2005 12:42 PM
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He sure did a good job with my LDG. When Leo Fender started bulding G&L's he redesigned a lot of things about the guitars, and the changes he made were pretty good. They're not Fenders, but they're fine guitars from the same genius designer. |
Duane Reese
Member From: Salt Lake County, Utah
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posted 25 October 2005 12:43 PM
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I didn't realize that Gretsch actually built Sho-Bud steels - I thought they just owned the name.I tell you what guys, we are just going to have to wait until more information surfaces about these Jackson jobs. I'm going to bookmark that website and see what develops. Bobby that's comforting to hear about David's background with the Sho-Bud way of doing things - I just hope it translates over to the Jackson steel...
...Because if it does, that will translate into a great steel. |
Jim Phelps
Member From: just out of Mexico City
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posted 25 October 2005 12:54 PM
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No, nobody said Ricky put it down, and Ricky in fact didn't, he only said to his way of thinking it wouldn't be exactly a Sho-bud, and he's entitled to see things his way, as we all are. Sounds to me as if it'd be about as close as you can get, but I'm not that knowledgable about them.Oh, I see Coop has deleted his posts. Fine, I'll delete my response to his post in return, but I won't forget his post.[This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 25 October 2005 at 01:02 PM.] |
Mike Weirauch
Member From: Harrisburg, Illinois**The Hub of the Universe
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posted 25 October 2005 01:03 PM
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I agree with you Jim 100% |
Billy Carr
Member From: Seminary, Mississippi USA
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posted 25 October 2005 01:06 PM
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With the history of Dave Jackson and Sho-Bud, it would probably be a nice guitar. Taking some of the old Sho-Bud ideas and adding todays technology and upgrades would be a great asset to our little world of Psg. Maybe a "Sho-Bud by Jackson ?" Hum? |
Steve Dodson
Member From: Sparta, Tennessee, USA
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posted 25 October 2005 01:11 PM
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Bobbe Seymour,
Thank You for your support and responce to my post. Those where just my thoughts on the matter, and its a good thing for the Steel Guitar World that we have Bobbe Seymour around also. There,s no one with anymore knowledge about Steel Guitars period, and Sho-Bud's and its history for that matter. Not to mention being a verry high profile Steel Player.With a wide range of style and innovation. Thank You.
Steve[This message was edited by Steve Dodson on 25 October 2005 at 01:19 PM.] |
Stephen Gambrell
Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA
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posted 25 October 2005 01:59 PM
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I love them old Sho-Buds. Never been a prettier steel guitar, IMO. But I do wonder if the market, and the economy, is ready for ANOTHER steel guitar manufacturer? Bobbe, are the Pro-Mats selling like hotcakes? I know that all the new guitars are well-built, and there's waiting lists at EVERYBODY'S shops, but I'd guess that more steels are sold here on the Forum in a day, than all the new steels combined. |
James Morehead
Member From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 25 October 2005 02:35 PM
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Bobbe Seymore, you are right, allot of folks are unaware of Shobud history, or steel guitar history in general. I for one, do not know much of the history, so thankyou. I am relatively new to steel guitardom, and I learn a little each day from this fine forum, and folks like you.
I'll bet David Jackson will put out beautiful guitars, as he has in the past. I own one and love it, as a few I have owned and played and sold off. My steel heros play or played Shobuds at one time, if not still. There is room for everyone--competition is GOOD, it improves quality---build a better mousetrap, and the world will beat a path to your door! |
Larry Robbins
Member From: Fort Edward, New York, USA
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posted 25 October 2005 02:51 PM
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Steve Dodson,
You are correct, it IS a good thing we have a guy like Bobbe Seymour.What would we do without him?? He has gone out of his way to be a good friend of mine although we have never met face to face.BTW, I understand if you find a better way to make fried chicken, Bobbe Seymour will beat a path to your door |
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