I must admit Chip is right about the TablEdit forum: it is much less active than the Steel Guitar Forum. (Probably because TablEdit users are 100% satisfied, I suppose so ;-)

BTW, it is reserved to registered users. However, I do agree beginners, who have not registered yet, need more support than experienced and convinced users...

IMHO, it should be created a TablEdit topic on the Steel Guitar Forum (Section Computers) where TablEdit technical issues could be discussed and explained.

1° I've also noticed the stems are crossing the numbers. It should be fixed in a next update.

2° In former versions, the stems for 1/2 notes were truncated (as are tied notes stems in tablature). It is a quite good solution except if the note is on the lowest string. So I've been asked by some users to display regular stems even for 1/2 notes. I've granted their wishes.

The users who asked for this change told me that in tablature the normal display for a 1/2 note should be one 1/4 note tied to a following 1/4 note.

After some thoughts, I think now it was not a good idea. Indeed, if the user prefers so, he is allowed to enter tied quarter notes. The new system has no real advantage.

So I'll restore the truncated stems for 1/2 notes.

Personally, I don't like the stems in the tab at all, so I won't be using that feature. If the notation is there, why does anyone need the additional stems in the tab? It would be useful if the user chooses to print only the tab... without the notation, which is one option available.

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To speed the entries up, I enter all of the numbers on a line and then I go back and add in all the "A" lever changes.... go back and add in all of the "B" lever changes, etc. Once you access the Pitch Change menu, just hit "ENTER" and the Pitch Change menu will pop up again. That makes things a little easier.

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Open PITCH CHANGE [default is A 2]
3 hits on TAB takes you to A
3 hits on DOWN ARROW takes you to D
3 hits on TAB takes you to 2
3 hits on DOWN ARROW takes you to -1
hit ENTER, and back to tablature.

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Obviously, if a note with pitch change is currently selected, its settings are shown.

there seems to be a misunderstanding. What I meant is:

When I enter for example Shift+E, the note is automatically lowered one halftone.

When I click on a note with no pitch change, open the pitch change dialog and select E, the pitch change remains at +2 and I have to change that manually. A 0 default with no selection doesnt help much. Better would be that if a letter is entered in the Pitch change dialog, the correspondig pitch change is connected to that letter and a Shift+Letter would later add that pitch change to the note without opening the Pitch dialog.

BTW, You sure knew how to steal our time. seems like we're all converting our tabs now.

The v2.60 a5 is available.
http://www.tabledit.com/download/tev260d.exe

Changes regarding PSG:

- Option for displaying graphical arrows instead of characters.
- PSG C6 predefined tuning (in "Tuning" dialog box)
- Note stems don't cross tab numbers anylonger

Matthieu

I do understand now: you want that the letter selections automatically modify the pedal change values in the dialog box.

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[This message was edited by Doug Beaumier on 07 September 2001 at 04:29 PM.]

Okay, now it's time for me to start actually playing the steel guitar again... instead of the computer!

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The new v2.60 a6 has just been uploaded.
http://www.tabledit.com/download/tev260d.exe (600 Kb)

Pedal and lever changes entry improved:

If you select a letter from the list, the dialog box uses the shortkeys default values. For instance, if you select 'B', the pitch change field is set to 1. If you modify the value before selecting the letter, a message will prompt you to change the default value for that letter. For instance, you have entered -2, and then you select 'A', a message prompts you to change the default value of [A] from 2 to -2.

Please tell me what you think about this new facility.

On another subject, I've noticed the number of new tabs in TablEdit format is still increasing. That's great. But I've noticed the .tef files are not zipped. The problem is Netscape's users can't download these files correctly since Netscape corrupts them while downloading (MS Explorer works just fine). So I would suggest either to zip the files individually or to create a zipped archive containing all the tef files.

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MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING HERE. I have version '6a' and I don't know any other way to change PITCH and make it STICK; other than, just going into the LETTER and clicking a CHANGE..........THIS SHOULD BE ENUFF TO ESTABLISH THIS CHANGE AND RETAIN IT, NO???

CLICK on the LETTER; put in your CHANGE; click to SAVE AS....so when you go back to what you were working on, VOILA, it's all as
you have left it.

Maybe this is all available right now, but I am having trouble understanding the communiques, sometimes.

Thanks, Matt...
eagerly waiting your reply...

Grande Regardes,

Chip

[This message was edited by CHIP FOSSA on 18 September 2001 at 08:41 PM.]

I have sent TONS of TEF files to friends and relatives, asssociates, enemies, jerks, lovers..........BUT.....WHEN YOU TELL THEM THEY HAVE TO DOWNLOAD A 'DEMO VERSION', and in essence, go thru some rigamorole....well..
it can be a hard sell.

Make your great program just a little easier to show to the general folks.

I mean, heck, if you need a few more bucks from all of us to see this thru, count me in.

I think your great effort here has to get 'OUT THERE'........more......allow us registered users to show and prolifrigate
your great program.

OUR HANDS ARE TIED

You and me and all the TE members have nothing to lose here. SHOW THE WORLD.

"Set me free, why dontcha' babe".......

Hey Matt....FWIW.....Thanks for all you have done, and all you are continuing to do.

God Bless,

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what's wrong with the way
that we're doin' it now
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You seem to ignore TEFView, the free TablEdit file Viewer. With TEFView, you can open any TablEdit, print it out, listen at it without any nag message. Unfortunately only TEFView v2.50 is available for now. So the recent improvements for PSG can't be tested with it yet.

You'll have to wait a few weeks until v2.60 becomes the official version for all users (registered or not).

Smallcap,

Please be more explicit. Which letter assignments are lost?

To All,

I'm about to release TablEdit v2.60 a7 with a simple copedant support and the correspondant spellchecking feature. I've finally been convinced it is very useful ;-)

I am having trouble with the width of the measures ie I have more notes than allowable spaces in the measure. Therefore I want to be able to move the measure line to the right to accept additional notes when this is necessary.

To enter 1/16, 1/32 or 1/64 notes in a measure, click on DISPLAY and then choose "Scale to 1/16 Notes", etc. The measure will expand to accept up to 1/64 notes.

To tie notes together put the little blue box on the note to be tied, click on NOTE and then click on TIED NOTE

When you start out be sure to click on SCORE, then INSTRUMENT, and then PEDAL STEEL GUITAR and click OK. This will put the tab numbers into the spaces. Click on the Print Preview to see what it will look like. There are many display options under the Print Preview page. You can vary the spacing between the tab and the notation, you may include stems in the tab, etc.

The notes will automatically pop into place as you enter the tab, but you may print just the tab and not the notes if you want to.

The HELP file must be downloaded separately (from the same page you downloaded the software).

To change the value of notes that you have already entered... highlight the note, click on NOTE, and choose the time value that you want to assign to it. You can speed things up by displaying the NOTES PALETTE.... click on DISPLAY, then PALETTES, and then NOTES. I hope this helps. db

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"Concerning how to play back in the correct time.
Make sure you understand the bar that looks like a ruler. It's between the Fingerboard and Tab on my setup.
It represents the timing in a measure. For example, if you want two half notes, on the first and third beats, place notes over the first and middle tick of the ruler."etc etc

I thought by quoting Joe it might help someone else also.

Thanks to all.

From the Start Button, click on Programs, then Accessories, then WordPad. That program, supplied with Windows, will open Rich Text Files (which are actually no wealthier than other files )

If you know which drive and directory you stored the rtf on, you should be all set. Just start up WordPad, click Open, and navigate to the directory.

HOLD IT --
I just checked my TablEdit32 directory and the help file is a regular Windows help file == not an RTF. I did have to download it separately. It's found on http://www.tabledit.com/secured/tabhlp_e.exe
if you're a registered user. That's where I got it anyway. Good luck.
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[This message was edited by Larry Bell on 24 September 2001 at 07:53 PM.]

The v2.60 a7 is available. You can download the free demo at:
http://www.tabledit.com/download/tev260d.exe

As announced, I've implemented a simple copedant support.

The Pitch change dialog box allows you define the strings to be affected
by the effect which is currently selected in the list. For now the
settings are still saved in the general initialization file but I'm
planning to save the PSG configuration with each tablature which
doesn't use the default values.

If you want to try the new possibilities:

- Import a midi file within a PSG tablature. Then select the
Score|Transpose command and the "Optimize Fingering" option, TE will try
to align the notes the best way.

- Open a guitar tablature. Open the "Tuning" dialog and select the
"Impact->Fingering" option. Then select in the list box your favourite
PSG tuning. Then select the Transpose feature as above...

- If the "Fingering Errors" screen option is checked, TE will show the
inconsistent tab numbers and pedal changes.

I'm waiting for your comments.

PS: The bug relating to the lost pedal changes assignments is fixed.

[This message was edited by Matthieu Leschemelle on 26 September 2001 at 11:46 AM.]

The B pedal is OK, but my B also raises the
10th string [G#] a half step as well.

Is there some place to change the PITCH CHANGE from a 10 stringer to a 12stringer?

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It would be possible to have 12 check boxes in the pitch change dialog, but I simply don't know how to present them elegantly, within the actual dialog size ;-)