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Reggie Duncan Member From: Mississippi |
posted 20 January 2002 07:23 AM
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What floor pedal setup do you play? Let's see how many are on the left and how many on the right! [This message was edited by Reggie Duncan on 20 January 2002 at 07:24 AM.] |
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Mike Weirauch Member From: Harrisburg, Illinois**The Hub of the Universe |
posted 20 January 2002 07:26 AM
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Emmons |
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Jack Stoner Sysop From: Inverness, Florida |
posted 20 January 2002 07:30 AM
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Emmons (always had mine set up this way). |
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John Hawkins Member From: Onalaska, Tx. on Lake Livingston |
posted 20 January 2002 07:32 AM
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What Jack Stoner said ! John |
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B.Jenkins Member From: Parkersburg, WV...U.S.A |
posted 20 January 2002 07:38 AM
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DAY.... |
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Paul Graupp Member From: Macon Ga USA |
posted 20 January 2002 07:58 AM
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DAY now EMMONS. I think JD said it best way back when: It depended on who you met first. I guess that explains me meeting Garrett and Day with Jim Reeves years before I ran into the Big E. For me changing was like putting your head on the other way. Four years in and I still miss a throw if I don't concentrate on them. Regards, Paul |
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Pedalsteel unregistered |
posted 20 January 2002 08:09 AM
Jimmy Day.....I saw him first. I've been playing his setup all my life. Saw no reason to change, although it seems Emmons is the defacto standard. What are the pro's and con's of these setups? |
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Roger Rettig Member From: NAPLES, FL |
posted 20 January 2002 08:30 AM
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'DAY' When I started playing in England in the mid-70s, a great guy by the name of Eric Snowball started to deal ZBs. For some reason that I'm unaware of, all of these guitars seemed to have the 'Day' set-up, so I didn't know any different. Now, if I sit down to an 'Emmons' set-up, it feels as though one needs to be double-jointed to play that way! I'm very interested in the reponse to this thread; I asked Mr Seymore once, and he thought that 'Day' players amounted to about five percent - I wonder? I'm comforted that, as well as Jimmy, of course, the great Tommy White is one of the 'five percent'..... ------------------ |
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Tony Prior Member From: Charlotte NC |
posted 20 January 2002 08:44 AM
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Emmons |
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Jerry Roller Member From: Van Buren, Arkansas USA |
posted 20 January 2002 09:02 AM
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Day on E9th. "Roller" on C6th. I would be interested to know if anyone else in the world has their C6th completely backwards like I do. BooWah is 8th, 7th pedal lowers 5th and raises 9th and 10th strings, 6th pedal raises 2nd and lowers 6th string and 5th raises 3rd and 4th whole tone. 4th changes from time to time. Jerry |
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Frank Parish Member From: Nashville,Tn. USA |
posted 20 January 2002 09:14 AM
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Day then Emmons. The guy that set up my first guitar was a Day player and had very good points about it. He said it was more natural to rock your foot to the right. Makes sense to me. I bought a guitar that was set up with the Emmons set-up and it took about 3 days to get used to it. If you play the Day set-up you can't just walk in and sit in on anybodys guitar unless you can play both ways. Johnny Cox has played mine many times and it didn't seem to bother him. I read where about 10% of the players are Day players. |
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CrowBear Schmitt Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France |
posted 20 January 2002 09:15 AM
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Emmons |
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Richard Sinkler Member From: Fremont, California |
posted 20 January 2002 09:18 AM
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Day on E9th -- Sinkler on C6th. Boo-Wah pedal on LKL. Original Pedal 7 on RKR. ------------------ |
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slick Member From: Calhoun Georgia |
posted 20 January 2002 09:26 AM
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Emmons |
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Paul Graupp Member From: Macon Ga USA |
posted 20 January 2002 09:26 AM
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JERRY ROLLER: You've got me out of the closet !! I thought I was the only one in the world who had their 6th neck backwards ! I feel a lot better now..... When I got my first 1000, I put the pedals on there that Bob White had showed me. The M7/M9 and to the right of it the Raise the high third and Lower the Bottom one. I played that and added the others as I heard of them but in reverse order so they would work. When I changed to the EMMONS on E9th I also tried to change the 6th neck but couldn't. There was just too much to invert so I went back to my old ways again. You wouldn't by any chance be in the key of Cb on your 6th neck, would you ?? Best Regards, Paul |
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Jerry Roller Member From: Van Buren, Arkansas USA |
posted 20 January 2002 09:42 AM
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I'm glad to hear there is another "one" out there also. No, my C6th is not Cb  .Since Bobby White is and was in my hometown and an influence on me maybe that is why my C6th is this way. Jimmy Day used to always come by the old Pedalmaster "factory" a block from my house we would visit all night when he would be in town playing the old Eagles Hall so I think that is why my E9th is Day setup. Jerry [This message was edited by Jerry Roller on 20 January 2002 at 09:46 AM.] |
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Dave Seddon Member From: Leicester, England. |
posted 20 January 2002 09:55 AM
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J.D. This way is a heck of a lot easier when you've only got short legs. Dave. |
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Gene Jones Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA |
posted 20 January 2002 10:05 AM
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Jerry re your post: Why do you think your C6 pedals are backward?....my early 80s ShoBud pedals came from the factory set-up the way yours is....and I always thought that it was standard, if there is such a thing!  I may have "strayed" from the "norm" on the other neck...among other things, I raise my Es with LKL, and lower with RKL. Gene [This message was edited by Gene Jones on 20 January 2002 at 11:02 AM.] |
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Allan Thompson Member From: Scotland. |
posted 20 January 2002 10:39 AM
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Emmons. |
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Charles Beshears Member From: Leesburg, AL, USA |
posted 20 January 2002 11:17 AM
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Emmons E9th and C6th |
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Tim Rowley Member From: Pinconning, MI, USA |
posted 20 January 2002 11:33 AM
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Emmons. I should add though, NOT my knee levers. I have my own setup on the knee levers, for instance I raise and lower my E's on E9th with my right knee, everything else is on my left knee. Personally I feel that there are a few definite chordal and physical comfort advantages to this, and besides that my right knee and right foot are on autopilot anyway. Just works better for me. Tim R. [This message was edited by Tim Rowley on 20 January 2002 at 11:41 AM.] |
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les green Member From: Jefferson City, Mo 65101 USA |
posted 20 January 2002 11:39 AM
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Day then Emmons |
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Wendell Neal Member From: Broken Arrow, OK USA |
posted 20 January 2002 11:42 AM
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Day...Started playing that way and never changed. |
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Craig A Davidson Member From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA |
posted 20 January 2002 11:52 AM
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Emmons though oddly enough my ZB had the Day set up and that backwards set-up mentioned on C6. ------------------ |
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BobbeSeymour Member From: Hendersonville TN USA |
posted 20 January 2002 12:15 PM
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Both, it makes no difference to me.(Jerry Byrd, 1959) Bobbe |
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B Bailey Brown Member From: San Antonio, TX (USA) |
posted 20 January 2002 12:43 PM
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Day, and now Emmons. My first steel had the Day set up, so that is the way I learned. Then I quit for several years and when I bought my Sho-Bud Professional in the early 70’s it had the Emmons setup. That concerned me briefly, so I called Jerry Blanton and asked him about it. He said, “Buy the guitar…either one works as well as the other!” I did, and he was right! B. Bailey Brown |
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Al Marcus Member From: Cedar Springs,MI USA |
posted 20 January 2002 12:44 PM
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Richard Sinkler- good move! With P7 on RK and boowah on LK , and your left foot on usual P5 and P6, you can just about play all C6 without moving your left foot. Just like on E9. Pretty good. I used to use Day setup, it is more comfortable for me, and I think faster with the ankle, but most all the guitars are Emmons setup, so I switched too. Another reason is, I don't use Pedal C on E9, I get the E to F# on a knee lever to take care of that. Then I have pedal 3 available for the C6 neck. A Player can get used to either way, whichever is more comfortable to him or her....al [This message was edited by Al Marcus on 20 January 2002 at 12:46 PM.] |
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Buck Grantham Member From: Denham Springs, LA. USA |
posted 20 January 2002 12:59 PM
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Day |
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Gary Dunn Member From: Walnut Cove, NC, USA |
posted 20 January 2002 01:04 PM
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Emmons |
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Steve Miller Member From: Long Beach, CA, USA |
posted 20 January 2002 01:12 PM
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Emmons |
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Larry Miller Member From: Gladeville,TN.USA |
posted 20 January 2002 02:15 PM
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Emmons, I wanted to try the Day set up a few years back, but B.S. talked me out of it. |
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Hook Moore Member From: South Charleston,West Virginia |
posted 20 January 2002 02:17 PM
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Emmons ------------------ |
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Paul Graupp Member From: Macon Ga USA |
posted 20 January 2002 03:01 PM
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Larry: You should have asked Tommy White !! Regards, Paul |
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George Rozak Member From: Braidwood, Illinois USA |
posted 20 January 2002 03:29 PM
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Emmons ------------------ |
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Bob Tuttle Member From: San Angelo, Tx, USA |
posted 20 January 2002 03:43 PM
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I use the day setup. My ankle flexes better that direction. |
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Moon in Alaska Member From: Kasilof, Alaska **** way up NORTH TO ALASKA |
posted 20 January 2002 04:35 PM
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My setup is Emmons --- but only by accident !! I had a single pedal for several years which pulled both the B and G#. When I purchased a steel with more pedals, I then had my left pedal raise the B only, the second pedal raised both B and G#, and the 3rd pedal raised the G#. It took me 3 pedals to have what we now have with 2. I played maybe 15 years before I changed to standard A - B - C. So I would say mine evolved !!! ------------------ |
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Donnie Blassl Member From: Lincoln, NE USA |
posted 20 January 2002 04:54 PM
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Day on my ZB. |
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Jerry Hayes Member From: Virginia Beach, Va. |
posted 20 January 2002 05:09 PM
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Mooney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------ |
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Gary Morrison Member From: Centennial, CO, USA |
posted 20 January 2002 05:47 PM
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Emmons on Emmons, then Day on Sho-Bud! |
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Rick Trolinger Member From: Cave Springs, Arkansas |
posted 20 January 2002 07:57 PM
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Day. My first guitar was setup that way when I got it. I don't think I would want it any other way. Rick |
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