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DALE WHITENER
Member

From: TRINITY,NC USA

posted 14 November 2002 03:14 AM     profile     
Yes! Count me in.
Dale
Chris Forbes
Member

From: Beltsville, MD, USA

posted 14 November 2002 03:31 AM     profile     
yes
George Kimery
Member

From: Limestone, TN, USA

posted 14 November 2002 03:47 AM     profile     
Would it be totally cost prohibitive to have a video magazine? Too impractical and labor intensive? It would be wonderful to get one about once a quarter. The possibilities for interviews, clips of performances, tabs being played, convention footage, advertisers, etc. would be phenomential. It is probably the same old problem...just not enough steel players to support it. It might have a chance where magazines have failed. The video format would not compete with the forum.
Tiny Olson
Member

From: Tribes Hill, NY, USA along the Erie Canal in the beautiful Mohawk River Valley

posted 14 November 2002 04:12 AM     profile     
Terry:

I would support a magazine dedicated to steel guitar. But like some others have said, be careful not to overextend yourself.

Chris "Tiny" Olson

RON PRESTON
Member

From: Dodson, Louisiana, USA

posted 14 November 2002 04:15 AM     profile     
Terry,
YES, YES, and YES.
I hope that it turns out OK. I would support ANYTHING on our great instrument and the great players and builders and everyone who makes our "Toys" that go along with it.
As far as a Video....GREAT idea, IMHO.
Good Luck, Terry, and keep us posted.
J J Harmon
Member

From: Salisbury, North Carolina, USA

posted 14 November 2002 04:23 AM     profile     
Yes for me.

Ian Reynolds included some of the old mags in with my purchase of his Carter and N-400.

Chuck S. Lettes
Member

From: Denver, Colorado

posted 14 November 2002 05:22 AM     profile     
Hello Terry,
Yes! Count me in.
Chuck
Danny Naccarato
Member

From: Ft. Worth, Texas US

posted 14 November 2002 05:26 AM     profile     
Yes....
Hap Young
Member

From: Yuma, AZ, USA

posted 14 November 2002 05:50 AM     profile     
You have my vote. I would love it.
Jim Cohen
Member

From: Philadelphia, PA

posted 14 November 2002 06:29 AM     profile     
Terry, you're a good man for even thinking about this idea. Now, I'm sure you're well aware that the last fellow who tried this trick lost house and home and hasn't been heard from since...

I'll certainly support you with a subscription if you're bold enough to venture into this, but please be careful out there!

Erv Niehaus
Member

From: Litchfield, MN, USA

posted 14 November 2002 07:12 AM     profile     
Yes, I certainly would be interested. But, like so many have advised, just take it easy at first. I think where the last guy got in trouble was with that full color issue. I'm sure that cost him a bundle! Remember the old KISS theory, Keep It Simple! You have to learn to crawl before you can walk and run.
I subscribe to several steel guitar associations already but would gladly subscribe to a magazine again.
Erv
Danny Bentley
Member

From: Hendersonville Tn

posted 14 November 2002 07:15 AM     profile     
Sign me up!
Jay Ganz
Member

From: Out Behind The Barn

posted 14 November 2002 07:19 AM     profile     
FOR SURE!!!

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Steelin' Video * * * Clip-1* * * * Clip-2

[This message was edited by Jay Ganz on 14 November 2002 at 07:20 AM.]

Larry Bell
Member

From: Englewood, Florida

posted 14 November 2002 07:21 AM     profile     
T,
I agree with most that many steel players can't get enough steel talk. However, folks like Tom Bradshaw (and others) have had successful publications but none have lasted long. Furthermore, the PSGA and some of the other clubs and associations have their own newsletters and that might cut into potential subscribers.

Have you thought of an E-Zine? (don't I recall that your wife does stuff like that?)

NO POSTAGE
NO PRINTING
NO DISTRIBUTION

You have the subscriber enter a password and they can look at the current issue, archived issues, and other goodies. Worth a thought.

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Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
2000 Fessenden S-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro

jim milewski
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From: stowe, vermont

posted 14 November 2002 07:40 AM     profile     
count me in, if it wasn't for fessy I'd be in the dark on most things, I'd join and subscribe in a hearbeat
Wayne Brown
Member

From: Strathmore, Alberta, Canada

posted 14 November 2002 08:28 AM     profile     
YES
Donny Hinson
Member

From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.

posted 14 November 2002 08:51 AM     profile     
If it were to be a viable, long-term publication...then, yes.

However, in order to be successful, you would have to advertise nationally! This would mean big-market radio (or possibly TV) ads to inform all of those who aren't online. Remember, probably 2/3 of your market can't be reached by computer, and those are the ones who would be most interested in a printed publication, since they have no other source of information on the rest of the steel scene.

My advice is not to even think about this...unless you have access to "front money" of about $50,000. If you're going to be successful...you gotta start out right! (Check and see what a 15 second spot on the Opry TV show would cost. That would be a good, but maybe discouraging, start.)

Advertising is the key to startout success in most businesses.

[This message was edited by Donny Hinson on 14 November 2002 at 08:52 AM.]

Jody Cameron
Member

From: Angleton, TX,, USA

posted 14 November 2002 09:01 AM     profile     
I'm in!

JC

John Gretzinger
Member

From: Northridge, CA

posted 14 November 2002 09:04 AM     profile     
I subscribed to SGW and did not receive all my subscription as the publisher went out of business - but I would subscribe again.

As much as I love the instant access of the Internet and the Forum, it's rough to take the computer with me for reading at the doctor's office or when I know I'm going to have some down time (not to mention reading in the bathroom).

Count me in.

jdg

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MSA D-10 w/Nashville 400
'63 Gibson Hummingbird
16/15c Hammered Dulcimer

Dan Tyack
Member

From: Seattle, WA USA

posted 14 November 2002 09:11 AM     profile     
I really doubt whether the advertising base can support such an effort, since most companies involved in this business have a marketing budget so small that getting a booth at a couple of steel shows pretty much covers it. And the potential readership is so small that you would need to charge a whole lot of money to expect to make any sort of income. I think it might make sense to start an ezine and see what the response is to such an effort. You would need to have some sort of internet presence anyway, because you won't be able to get distribution in the normal channels (retail) so most of the distribution would need to be direct, with internet marketing making the most sense. Here's what I would expect to see in a steel ezine:

Online lessons, similar to the tab+clip that Guitar Player has available (for an extra charge).

Featured clips of live steel players (I bet there are some killer players out there who we would love to hear).

Interviews with a wide variety of players, with detailed discussions of gear (we steel players are all gear heads, after all).

Articles about historical players, with clips of rare solos.

Probably not product reviews, because there are way too few manufactures who are potential advertisers, so any review will likely be a love fest. That kind of review doesn't do anybody any good, and takes away credibility from the magazine.

In answer to your question, if there were to be a print magazine release, I would subscribe, if it didn't suck too bad. I'm not talking about fancy graphics or layout, I'm talking about decent writing and editing.

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www.tyack.com

Joe Delaronde
Member

From: Selkirk, Manitoba, Canada

posted 14 November 2002 09:30 AM     profile     
I'm in and I know of 4 other steelers you could count on. I just talked to them & they ageed to support you.

They also like the idea of an E-Zine.
So this is a 5 voter thread.
Joe

Terry Wendt
Member

From: Nashville, TN, USA

posted 14 November 2002 09:35 AM     profile     
53 YES's 6 NO's and 3 dimpled chad's

I appreciate the very good ideas and suggestions too! I actually believe the internet should go hand-in-hand with printed copy. [my opinion]

... anyone else?

[This message was edited by Terry Wendt on 14 November 2002 at 09:36 AM.]

Ron Randall
Member

From: Dallas, Texas, USA

posted 14 November 2002 09:53 AM     profile     
I admire your energy.
I would support, with subscription money, a web based magazine. Quarterly.

This forum is my main source of info.

This SGF and a great teacher are all I need.

Ron

Joe A. Camacho
Member

From: San Diego, CA

posted 14 November 2002 09:55 AM     profile     
Hey Terry,
You KNOW I'd be all over that!!! Also I'd love to contribute where I could with design and layout. give me a call you've got my number.
Terry Wendt
Member

From: Nashville, TN, USA

posted 14 November 2002 10:06 AM     profile     
Okay... counting off-forum emails...

the newest total is:

58 YES
6 No
3 dimpled
2 Contributors
1 Writer

It's lookin' like it might have a prayer

Mark van Allen
Member

From: loganville, Ga. USA

posted 14 November 2002 11:24 AM     profile     
Count me in. I always love being #59... Best of Luck, Terry, and if your publication is as colorful, interesting and informative as your book, you'll surely have a hit with the steel community.

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Busy in the Studio, busy on the road- but still lookin' for that Killer gig! C'mon by and visit-http://www.markvanallen.com

Mike Perlowin
Member

From: Los Angeles CA

posted 14 November 2002 11:29 AM     profile     
I would gladly supprt such an endeaver, but as has been pointed out by others. Both Tom bradshaw and Russ Rask tried and failed. In Russ's case, he went bankrupt and lost his home.

Russ operated in the red throughout the entire life of the magazine. He needed 3,000 subscribers to make the magazine profitable. The most he ever got was 2,700, and that was before the forum. Once the forum got started he lost about 400 subscribers.

Additionally, certain advertizers (I won't mention any names) failed to pay for their ads.

Terry, I'd think about this very carefully if I were you.

Allan Thompson
Member

From: Scotland.

posted 14 November 2002 11:34 AM     profile     
Five of us from Scotland say yes. We would all buy one.
Marco Schouten
Member

From: Amsterdam, The Netherlands

posted 14 November 2002 11:36 AM     profile     
Indeed, that is a yes.

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Steelin' Greetings
Marco Schouten
Sho-Bud Pro III Custom; Sho-Bud LLG

Dan Dowd
Member

From: Paducah,KY

posted 14 November 2002 01:51 PM     profile     
Count me in Terry
Jerry Overstreet
Member

From: Louisville Ky

posted 14 November 2002 03:57 PM     profile     
Yessir, I'll buy it!
Kenny Foy
Member

From: Lynnville, KY, USA

posted 14 November 2002 04:37 PM     profile     
Yes Count me in but reread Mike Perlowin, Donny Hinson, Joey Ace and Tiny Olson.
Paul Graupp
Member

From: Macon Ga USA

posted 14 November 2002 06:00 PM     profile     
Even with a dying computer, my answer is yes !!

Regards, Paul

Billy Peddycoart
Member

From: champain,IL US.

posted 14 November 2002 06:11 PM     profile     
Yep! I would love to see that.thanks Billy

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David Farlow
Member

From: San Antonio, Texas, USA

posted 14 November 2002 07:44 PM     profile     
Terry, had this been a few years ago my answer would be a definite yes, but times have changed so much. I would hate to see someone with good intentions go out on a limb and then suffer for it, mostly financially. As many have already stated, please do your home-work and research this throughly, as I believe you are starting to do by asking the Forum members. Best to ya.

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Sam Minnitti
Member

From: New Rochelle, NY

posted 14 November 2002 08:12 PM     profile     

Count me in.

Al Burk
Member

From: Pasadena,Texas, USA

posted 14 November 2002 09:23 PM     profile     
Terry,
I like your idea to combine the internet with a printed copy. I presently subscribe to GuitarOne magazine and they have an excellent web site that has sound and video examples of the lessons in the magazine.

Count me in.

Al B

Terry Wendt
Member

From: Nashville, TN, USA

posted 14 November 2002 11:16 PM     profile     
Al I think that is a very cool idea too
Martin Weenick
Member

From: Lecanto, FL, USA

posted 15 November 2002 12:54 AM     profile     
You heard about our "DIMPLED CHADS" way up there in gNashville ??????

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Martin W. Emmons LG III 3/5 Peavy 1000

Bob Blair
Member

From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

posted 15 November 2002 07:03 AM     profile     
As others have said, I'll buy it if it is there. I wish I could say that I wholeheartedly think it is a good idea, Terry, but the cautionary voices are worth listening to. I think that in addition to the financial risks, there may be a real problem with getting the quality writing and editing. If you have to be chasing advertisers to pay their bills, and the subscription base won't pay the freight, seems to me that you have to wind up relying on volunteer writing, which will vary widely in quality. There are some really good writers among us, and some of that made it's way into SGW and is still found in the PSGA newesletter (eg, John B. Arnold, the Hunter S. Thompson of the Steel Guitar, minus the substance abuse!). But you can't expect consistently good and on-time writing from a bunch of volunteers, and you will have stuff getting submitted which, though well-intentioned, is not in a state fit for publication. Which means that editing (which is always a lot harder than it looks from the outside) is a really big chore. There was a lot of great stuff in SGW, but some stuff made it in that ought not to have been there, and in some cases caused Russ a whole lot of grief. And I can only imagine how tough it must have been at the end when he was trying to save the magazine and couldn't deliver a product. Sorry to sound so negative Terry - I know it would be a labour of love, and I'll support it. But you could get hurt financially and get your heart broke.

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