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Jim Sliff
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From: Hermosa Beach California, USA

posted 09 November 2005 01:50 PM     profile     
b0b, I think you might be missing the mark - i.e. all the "pickin' on the (Beatles, Stones, Eagles, etc) CD's that are sold, where a bluegrass band plays rock songs. I think you're dismissing the idea far too quickly when the precedent has already been set, albeit not with steel. And "in the style of" means playing close facsimilies of the songs - it's already done with standard guitar...why can't the licks be adapted to steel?

Fact - they can.

There is NO reason steel arrangements couldn't be worked out for the real songs either - and it's not as absurd as your oboe or marimba suggestions indicate. Just because the steel's not there now doesn't mean it can't be in some cover band (actually, I've heard cover bands with steel do such material).

Check out Flea Market Music - Jim Beloff has a wide selection of books that have actual songs from the 60's...including Beatles tunes...arranged for ukelele. a truly wide range of material - Surf songs, Dock of the Bay, various Motown hits. Do you think there's a huge market for that?

If he can do it, why can't the teachers in the steel community do it?

"BTW, I can play any Beatles song from the sheet music if I need to. So yes, I can play them note-for-note. That's the route I would recommend to a student who wants to learn Beatles tunes."

Fine for sight readers...but most steel and guitar players don't read music from what I've seen. And that doesn't help the beginning student with educational methodology in a breadth of styles outside country.

It seems to boil down to this - what is the source of your resistance to it?

[This message was edited by Jim Sliff on 09 November 2005 at 01:54 PM.]

Mark Fasbender
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From: Salt Lake City,Utah

posted 09 November 2005 02:18 PM     profile     
Dave......... I have all the music to birds of fire(the entire album) in a book warner tamerlane published in the 70's. Really interesting. He suggests modes for solos based on astrological signs on a couple of tunes. Yuo should see the sheet for Saphire Bullets Of Pure Love. Celestial Terrestrial Commuters aint to bad though. About 10 years ago I was in a band that did that song and the steel player at the time did a great solo on the trades. He seemed to think it was kinda steel friendly.

Jim........ Which books are you encountering in music stores? I have never seen any around here. I get your drift, it would be cool if they would include some examples of how to use the steel in different styles,such as rock and such. I think it might be a problem to come up with a new edition of some of these materials though. The companies that produce them might not find it to be cost effective. Probably alot of folks here have some insight too.Try asking some specific questions about those styles and see what you get. I would be very interested to know as well. All I do is reharmonize the things I already know for different applications. There is probably ultimately more to it than that. Anybody?

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Mark

[This message was edited by Mark Fasbender on 09 November 2005 at 02:28 PM.]

Charlie McDonald
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From: Lubbock, Texas, USA

posted 09 November 2005 03:02 PM     profile     
quote:
It seems to boil down to this - what is the source of your resistance to it?

Resistance to what?

I've been following this thread pretty well, but I gotta drop out now. It's trying to turn into the kind of conversation you can only have face to face, in real time.

Besides, Ed Packard is posting some really good instructional materials about U-14, chord charts and the like.
It seems to have all the chords for playing any song you like.

Good luck.

Jim Sliff
Member

From: Hermosa Beach California, USA

posted 09 November 2005 03:07 PM     profile     
What's the string spacing like on a U-14? Seems like it would be incredibly tight.
Bobby Lee
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From: Cloverdale, North California, USA

posted 09 November 2005 03:10 PM     profile     
Moderator, please close this topic.

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