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Author | Topic: A bent string, is a spent string. |
Bill Hankey Member Posts: 1680 |
![]() ![]() The "lucky 7" was designed to The standard universal changer of Bill H. [This message was edited by Bill Hankey on 08 December 2001 at 04:29 AM.] [This message was edited by Bill Hankey on 08 December 2001 at 04:33 AM.] |
Steve Feldman Member Posts: 2983 |
![]() ![]() quote: You really should try to do something about these run-on sentences, Bill. 259 to go... |
Jeff Lampert Member Posts: 2636 |
![]() ![]() Burp. 258. |
Robert Thomas Member Posts: 358 |
![]() ![]() Where can I buy 3 "lucky sevens" e-mail me at ret1934@netzero.net Thanks Robert Thomas |
Bill Hankey Member Posts: 1680 |
![]() ![]() Robert T. Thank you for the inquiry. Bill H. |
Jeff Lampert Member Posts: 2636 |
![]() ![]() I was ready to buy one. What will I do with the $2000 I saved up for it? |
Jerry Roller Member Posts: 3906 |
![]() ![]() This problem with the premature breakage of the 3rd string aparantly enters the nostils of some of you guys as a gentle zephyr over a Lilac bush in the springtime but to me it is as a harsh wind over a cess pool in the hot summertime. Go for it Bill! Jeff, you still counting? Jerry |
Paul Graupp Member Posts: 3199 |
![]() ![]() Jeff; If I had $2K I'd be calling Anapeg or Tom Brumley right now !! ![]() ![]() I changed strings last friday before the show since they had been on near three months, no breaks. Sat nite, first song, I broke the 1st on E9th and last song I broke the 3rd. Same brand, same guage, same everything and still the same result !! Go figger........ Regards, Paul |
Gene Jones Member Posts: 5796 |
![]() ![]() My experience is that if the 3rd doesn't break when you install it, it's probably good for 2 or 3 jobs. www.genejones.com |
Chris Walke Member Posts: 846 |
![]() ![]() Garsh, I'm glad I play non-pedal. So's my checkbook and anyone within earshot. I've broken many strings as a lead guitarist, mostly when on stage. Because the strings were old? Not usually. Because I pulled the heck out of them. If there was something that I could have put on the bridge to keep the string from breaking, I would have done it in a heartbeat...just so that I'd never have to change a string in the middle of a set. The idea of the Lucky 7 is a good one, if it gets you thru the show without a break. |
Lee Baucum Member Posts: 3201 |
![]() ![]() I'm just tickled pink that Steve Feldman was able to work the word "booger" into one of his posts. ![]() ------------------ |
Bill Hankey Member Posts: 1680 |
![]() ![]() The realization of how to manage the excessive breakage of the 3rd string that has created so much clamor amongst country music week- end warriors, has finally arrived. Satisfaction, is the key word. The little bushwhacker can deliver abuses on a regular basis. The situation has changed dramatically in my corner of the world, since the introduction of the "Lucky 7", and the simplistic "Golo" , a veritable gold mine discovery that has the potential to arrest any of the breakage problems. I will be installing the "Golo" on the 3rd string, after the holidays, and then proceed to experiment by utilizing mechanical means, which will simulate an instrument that is subjected to much use. Bill H.
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Steve Frost Member Posts: 262 |
![]() ![]() Rock my world! Has the Golo superceded the Lucky Seven already?! Or am I misinterpreting the conundrum which your convoluted and contorted constructions have contrived to convey cogent cogitations to us.Criminy, Bill! Spit it out already! ![]() |
Bill Hankey Member Posts: 1680 |
![]() ![]() Steve F. No, not by a long shot has the Bill H. [This message was edited by Bill Hankey on 08 December 2001 at 05:14 PM.] |
Johan Jansen Member Posts: 2207 |
![]() ![]() Smiley, is this you??? ![]() ![]() |
jim palmer Member Posts: 115 |
![]() ![]() Bill, how does the Lucky 7 fasten on to the changer finger? |
jim palmer Member Posts: 115 |
![]() ![]() Bill,how does the Lucky 7 fasten on to the changer finger? |
Jeff Lampert Member Posts: 2636 |
![]() ![]() Very good idea, Jim. If we double-post we'll get to 300 much faster. |
Jeff Lampert Member Posts: 2636 |
![]() ![]() Very good idea, Jim. If we double-post we'll get to 300 much faster. |
Bill Hankey Member Posts: 1680 |
![]() ![]() Jim P. A tiny machine screw threaded Bill H. [This message was edited by Bill Hankey on 08 December 2001 at 06:46 AM.] |
Sage Member Posts: 525 |
![]() ![]() There once was a steel player named Bill, who saw steel guitar needs he could fill. He re-threaded his finger to make 11's linger until they were over the hill. ![]() |
Sage Member Posts: 525 |
![]() ![]() There once was a steel player named Bill, who saw steel guitar needs he could fill. He re-threaded his finger to make 11's linger until they were over the hill. ![]() |
Steve Feldman Member Posts: 2983 |
![]() ![]() quote: Huh?.....Wha?...... Still many more to go.... Predictions as to time of thread closure by Administrator??? [This message was edited by Steve Feldman on 08 December 2001 at 07:12 AM.] |
Steve Feldman Member Posts: 2983 |
![]() ![]() quote: Huh?.....Wha?...... Still many more to go....(less 1). Predictions as to time of thread closure by Administrator??? |
Steve Stallings Member Posts: 2065 |
![]() ![]() ooooohhhh.....my head hurts. The humanity of it all.... ------------------ |
HowardR Member Posts: 5735 |
![]() ![]() The "Golo?" That's just what this thread has done... ![]() |
Larry Miller Member Posts: 975 |
![]() ![]() Hey! I know how to get to three hundred, let's pretend that I just came into this at post #66, not knowing anything about what's going on here, and I say "Hey fellas, what are you talking about? |
Harold Dye Member Posts: 133 |
![]() ![]() GADZOOKS BILL!!!! Your accomplishment has had earth shattering repercussions. So far the dicussion has involved the Golden Gate bridge, metalurgy, oxidation, guages and last, but not least, boogers and the "Golo". !!!!EGads MAN!!! you have stimulated such a treasure trove of intelluctual objectivity, and I have been left virtually speechless(but not quite). At this point the only thing I can think to add is....do either the Lucky 7 or the Golo come in Black? |
kyle reid Member Posts: 468 |
![]() ![]() Harold! How about the guy that's glad he plays non-pedal guitar! what a sacrifice! Go Figure! |
Bill Hankey Member Posts: 1680 |
![]() ![]() Harold D. Your perky humor can be added to Bill H. [This message was edited by Bill Hankey on 08 December 2001 at 02:33 PM.] |
Lee Baucum Member Posts: 3201 |
![]() ![]() Ah Hah! I see a golden opportunity to make tens of dollars here. Just produce a video on how to change a string in record time. ------------------ |
Lee Baucum Member Posts: 3201 |
![]() ![]() Ah Hah! I see a golden opportunity to make tens of dollars here. Just produce a video on how to change a string in record time. ------------------ |
Harold Dye Member Posts: 133 |
![]() ![]() Bill..It is without question yours is a most fertile mind. Your ideas are cutting edge and when juxtaposed with other recent inventions, clearly rise above the fray. If my reading of previous posts is correct you stated the Golo superceded the Lucky 7. This in itself is evidence of a superior mind straining to fulfill the need that is far to advanced for conventional thinking. Your supposition that the thing (golo) once invented is now obsolute, shows a commitment to providing the "best" for the best. You painted such a vivid picture of the $5000 steel, hobbled by such a minor occurance, yet so vital to the overall order of things, is mind boggleing. Sir, your perception is uncanny!! Please do not be dismayed or dissuaded by the musings of a few. Take comfort in the fact that yours is a goal worthly of great heights and is a committment to excellance. YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT...by the way, do they come in black? |
Jeff Lampert Member Posts: 2636 |
![]() ![]() quote: Harumph! Sir, I take offense to your implications of the triviality of my thoughts about Mr. Hankey's inventions. We shall duel to the finish tomorrow at dawn. [This message was edited by Jeff Lampert on 08 December 2001 at 05:25 PM.] |
Jeff Lampert Member Posts: 2636 |
![]() ![]() quote: Harumph! Sir, I take offense to your implications of the triviality of my thoughts about Mr. Hankey's inventions. We shall duel to the finish tomorrow at dawn. [This message was edited by Jeff Lampert on 08 December 2001 at 05:26 PM.] |
chas smith Member Posts: 3168 |
![]() ![]() quote:And like Sage brought up, it's in a salt water environment. One of the techniques used is to paint these things with a chemical that converts the rust to a polymer. Also a negative DC charge can be applied to the bridge to repel the negative valence electrons of the oxygen atoms. I like the DC to the strings idea. It will make grabbing the strings and touching the guitar player on the back of his neck even more fun. |
Bill Hankey Member Posts: 1680 |
![]() ![]() The double postings have prompted me to respond to fellow steel guitarists who have suggested that this post, entitled, " A Bent String,Is A Spent String ", could reach a given number. Attaining such a number is not my goal,though putting the beleaguered .011 string located at the 3rd changer finger, on the E9th chromatic neck; on "trial" would appeal to me. Notes which lead to accounts of bygone experiences of players who have been there when the vexatious .011's had taken flight, are desirous. Any attempts made to modify the Bill H. |
Paul Graupp Member Posts: 3199 |
![]() ![]() Bill; My memory goes back far enough to recall when the odd strings of E9th were on the back of the neck. This placed the G#-A in the first position. We soon learned that wouldn't work using the first tuning key. In quiet desperation we put the first string on the 3rd tuning key and it was somewhat better. After forty some years of playing it still shatters my evening when a string breaks under my hand. I jump way out of proportion to the stimulus but it is unexpected and I cannot control it. I can also recall using .009s, .010s and .0105s before .011s and .0115s came along. I have never been able to even reach a G# with a .012. When I was in europe, a music store in NY whose name I have forgotten, was working with me on this problem and sent me some ( God, I hate to say this.....) some banjo strings. If you even looked at them too hard, they broke. I think they were .008s. I also received some handwritten mail from Paul Bigsy with his well know comments about this string raise. I would be the first to note that you create and manage some of the most interesting and provacative threads I have read on the Forum. Regards, Paul |
jim miller unregistered Posts: 3199 |
![]() FWIW. When I first started on steel in the early 80's, I changed strings once a month. Kind of expensive for a U 12. At one of Buddy's classes, I asked him how often he changed his strings. This was his answer. " Oh, maybe once a year. If I have an important session, I might change 3 or 4 of them." I guess it doesn't hurt too much to keep them on there a while. Jim Miller I'D RATHER BE STEELIN' |
Jerry Roller Member Posts: 3906 |
![]() ![]() If it were not for inovative thinking minds like that of Bill Hankey, there is no telling what sort of primitive geetar we might be playing. In my mind the jury is still out on the "Lucky Seven", but I have an idea that the GoLo idea is going to be something most of us not playing keyless guitars will be using a form of in the near future. I share Bill's interest in a device that will avoid or deminish hysteresis. I have had an idea in my head for several years but have not gone the the trouble to develop it as Bill has done with his ideas. Jerry [This message was edited by Jerry Roller on 09 December 2001 at 11:59 AM.] |
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