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Jeff Lampert
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posted 08 February 2002 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff Lampert     
From the famous 1964 James Bond movie "GOLO"

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This isn't a personal vendetta, Lucky7. It's an assignment, like any other. If you can't treat it as such, coldly and objectively, Lucky8 can replace you. You've hardly distinguished yourself, have you? You were supposed to observe GOLO, not borrow his girlfriend.


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posted 08 February 2002 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Phelps     
Wow, 240 now! I think now it's only appropriate that b0b should initiate a new "Award for longest thread", it could be calle d "The Hankey Award", could be a handkerchief ("Hankey Award, get it??) embroidered in gold with "Steel Guitar Forum" and the number of posts before the thread was euthanized, er, closed.


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posted 08 February 2002 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for b0b     
I don't want to encourage this sort of thing!

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Jeff Lampert
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posted 08 February 2002 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff Lampert     
Well, it does not appear that your lack of encouragement has hampered the development of this thread. Maybe you SHOULD encourage it, and maybe that would make everyone stop posting .. except me of course. Burp.


Jeff A. Smith
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posted 08 February 2002 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff A. Smith     
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Maybe you SHOULD encourage it, and maybe that would make everyone stop posting ..

Hey-it might. I was reading the psychologist Victor Frankl, who had a treatment technique called "paradoxical intention." If someone was troubled with some kind of anxiety, he would instruct them to try and do precisely what they feared. I tried it for awhile when I was trying to hit bar slants in tune, and it actually worked pretty well!

Sorry, b0b. I just thought the idea was worth a little more space.

Bill Hankey
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posted 09 February 2002 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hankey     

My intention in the original post was to focus attention on the dilemmatic 3rd string nuisance. The very nature of its incredible pitch forfeits any expectation of hope, in terms of usability. The "Lucky 7" is a placating device, that tends to modify the severe jolting that the .011 sustains during performances.I feel that the standard universal changer is not designed to provide for pitches much above the F# note, found at the first string of the E9th chromatic tuning.

Bill H.

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posted 14 February 2002 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earnest Bovine     
Bill

Can I lower my G# string to G natural with a Lucky 7?

Bill Hankey
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posted 14 February 2002 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hankey     
Earnest B.

No Earnest, it is not designed for lowering strings. If you have the universal changer, you should be able to get any change by adding on hardware, and knee levers. There are no exceptions.

Bill H.

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posted 16 February 2002 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earnest Bovine     
I don't understand. Why can't I lower the pitch?


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posted 17 February 2002 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hankey     
Earnest B.,

Could you be more specific, and let me know on which instrument you desire to facilitate the G#-G change? The change is very common. I believe that most players opt for the full tone lower, on th 3rd and 6th strings. Do you wish to lower the 3rd, or both 3 and 6? Please let me know your knee lever setup.

Bill H.




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posted 17 February 2002 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobby Lee     
Few players lower their G# to F#. Most guitar changers won't move that far.


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posted 17 February 2002 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earnest Bovine     
I have a knee lever that lowers all 3 G# strings to G natural. But I'm asking about the high G# since you said your device won't work if we try to lower the pitch.


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posted 17 February 2002 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hankey     
Earnest B.,

This is interesting since You mentioned three G sharps. This information suggests that a 12 string steel guitar is involved here. Bobby Lee has stated that it would be difficult to lower the 6th string a full tone. Your desire to lower the 3rd string 1/2 tone, should not be a problem. Viewing your copedant, would be helpful, before add-ons are considered.

Bill H.

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posted 21 February 2002 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hankey     
Bobby Lee,

On February 17, you replied that "Few players lower their G# to F#" but still in your Paul Franklin chart, it clearly shows that Paul does that on his pedal 4. This is
interesting, since a large number of steel guitarists have been enticed to add some of his changes to their pedal and knee lever setups. I wish that those who have found Paul's setup to be the key to musical progressiveness, would share their thoughts, and expound on this issue.

Bill H.

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posted 21 February 2002 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Smith     
Bill, the question was about lowering the 3rd string, not the 6th. Many people lower the 6th string G#-F#, but the question was, with your Lucky 7 installed on the 3rd string, can it be lowered from G#-G? I think the question arose because of the reduced angle of the string caused by the Lucky 7. Too little of an angle on your extension would cause the string to raise up off the bridge if the string was lowered.


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posted 21 February 2002 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Van Allen     
word of the day:

obfuscation



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posted 21 February 2002 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary Carriger     
Bob,
Can't we please just close this?
Gary


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posted 21 February 2002 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Feldman     
I eschew obfuscation....


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posted 21 February 2002 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Don Townsend     

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posted 21 February 2002 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Don Townsend     
Look up "pleonasm" and see if it aptly describes this thread.


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posted 21 February 2002 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Don Townsend     

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posted 21 February 2002 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hankey     

Bobby Lee,

Please close this topic. It's apparent that it has run its course. My thanks to everyone on
The Steel Guiar Forum.

Bill H.


Jeff Lampert
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posted 21 February 2002 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff Lampert     
NO NOT YET!!!!!! Let's get it to 300 posts. It's the 26th mile of the marthon. The 9th inning of the World Series. It's the 30th hot dog in the hot dog eating contest. We can't quit now, not after we've come this far.


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posted 21 February 2002 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earnest Bovine     
What is the Lucky 7?


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posted 21 February 2002 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Feldman     
You sure you don't mean 'Where is the Lucky 7?


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posted 21 February 2002 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff Lampert     
Who is (are) the Lucky 7?


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