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Lee Baucum Member From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) - The Final Frontier
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posted 12 November 2004 09:21 AM
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This thread should overtake the ZB thread very soon. Just a few more posts. |
Jim Phelps Member From: just out of Mexico City
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posted 12 November 2004 10:49 AM
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.[This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 17 November 2004 at 07:11 PM.] |
Rick Garrett Member From: Tyler, Texas
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posted 12 November 2004 10:57 AM
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Way to go Rick! Cor there's your way out of this mess. Congrats to you both. You would think the Emmons company would be a little better at public relations rather than to slap the very people who buy their product. I can't believe the people who think because "They got their parts" in a timely fashion that Cor's problem should be swept under the rug. Good luck guys and I hope you break them from sucking eggs! Rick |
Ron Steenwijk Member From: Greensburg,PA
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posted 12 November 2004 11:05 AM
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quote: This thread should overtake the ZB thread very soon.
one more to goRon Nikaro SD10 4x6 |
Randy Pettit Member From: Van Alstyne, Texas USA
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posted 12 November 2004 11:10 AM
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Perhaps Larry Chung could weigh in on this situation? 
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b0b Sysop From: Cloverdale, California, USA
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posted 12 November 2004 11:20 AM
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The difference is that the ZB topic is a permanent resource for ZB information. This topic will be deleted when Cor's problem is resolved. |
Larry Chung Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 12 November 2004 11:21 AM
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OK, OK, OK. Uncle, already. (:This is kinda like that Twighlight Zone episode with Jack Klugman as the wanna be pool champion, right? Well, it was nice having the "longest" post, but all things must come to an end, eh? Cor, I haven't even read through the entire post here, but I hope you are well and that the issue resolves itself well. Now I know how the rest of you must feel like when you see the ZB post... (: By the way, keep the ZB-info coming. All ZBest and more power to the Forum! Larry ------------------ Larry Chung '67 ZB D-10 8+4 '71 ZB Custom S-11 4+4 '70 ZB D-10 8+2 |
HowardR Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 12 November 2004 11:29 AM
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Wow! A guest appearance from a competator threader. How cool is that?Now perhaps we'll get to the "core" of this problem.  [This message was edited by HowardR on 12 November 2004 at 11:31 AM.] |
RON PRESTON Member From: Dodson, Louisiana, USA
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posted 12 November 2004 12:57 PM
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Yes, Howard, I AGREE.  I,m running REAL SHORT on POPCORN, Not to mention I am TOTALY OUT of SODA to drink, (Talk about Cotton Mouth.....) and I haven't the TIME to drive the SEVEN MILES to the nearest store to get any soda, and anyway, I CAN'T MOVE because my SKINNY 'Lil REAR is a TOTAL PART of my 'PUTER THRONE NOW, and My Lovely wife, Cathy, well, she's got me on "LIFE SUPPORT" (She IS an RN ya Know?) now due to my RELENTLESS AGEING day by day due to STARIN' at this monitor. Now THAT's a LOT of "DAZE" because, now that I think about it, I can't REMEMBER the LAST TIME I LOOKED at The CLOCK, But, I THINK it was SOMETIME back when this "ABBOTT vs. COSTELLO" thread STARTED. (NOW, Let me say ALSO, I KNOW and REALIZE just how SERIOUS this matter is, so, Guys, PLEASE, I am NOT making Fun of this situation, but it has gotten to the point that one can feel "GIDDY" following this VERY UNCERTAIN situation, and there has been ENOUGH FLAMES here. So, If I have "Stepped out of Line" here, then feel free to Email me and I will apologize PROMPLY. And Mr.Cor, I'm Just trying to BRIGHTEN things, that's all, and I AM PRAYING for BOTH PARTYS and ALL INVOLVED who is helping You. May God Bless ALL of you.  ------------------ Emmons S-10 4 & 5 Evans FET 500, Session 400 LTD, ProFex 11 |
David L. Donald Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 12 November 2004 01:51 PM
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quote: This topic will be deleted when Cor's problem is resolved.
Quite right and appropriate.This thread, this group communication will not be floating around forever taking the company to task for it's hard heartedness... It will eventually disapear. But for many the Lashley's apperant attitude toward Cor, will not so easily fade away.. and they can NOT blame US, nor blame Cor. Didn't daddy ever explain : "Don't pee upstream from the well." For whatever reasons... push was forced to become shove. I am sure I am not alone in wishing this thread never got to 15 pages and 600 posts.... but it is not up to me. No adequate explaination of why the man should not get his money back has ever been put forward. So until the wheels of justice roll forward, or "Dawn breaks over Marblehead", we go on... Oh, but were it not neccesary![This message was edited by David L. Donald on 12 November 2004 at 01:59 PM.] |
Rick McDuffie Member From: Smithfield, North Carolina, USA
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posted 12 November 2004 01:56 PM
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I have heard from Cor. Stay tuned. |
John Lazarus Member From: Tucson, AZ.
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posted 12 November 2004 02:21 PM
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Could someone with some computer knowledge email a copy of this complete thread to the Emmons Co? It would be nice to know for sure that they are aware what a pot of boiling water they may be stepping into. |
Tom Olson Member From: Spokane, WA
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posted 12 November 2004 02:32 PM
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I hope Cor's problem doesn't turn into a Coors problem Sorry, just thought I'd try to provide some light-hearted merriment during intermission. |
Farris Currie Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 12 November 2004 03:26 PM
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John it's already known,and Tom POP A TOP again!!huh!!!!! |
Joey Ace Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada
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posted 12 November 2004 05:07 PM
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John, They read it. I have proof. I can't say more, but I know, without a doubt, this is true. If history is any indication, once things get too hot, they will give Cor his guitar. They'll claim it had nothing to do with this discussion. Their supporters will say, "See, they were going to do the right thing anyway". At least it will be resolved. |
Rick McDuffie Member From: Smithfield, North Carolina, USA
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posted 13 November 2004 05:31 AM
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Joey, you are a prophet. |
David L. Donald Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 13 November 2004 05:35 AM
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Hhhmmmm, interesting |
CrowBear Schmitt Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 13 November 2004 06:19 AM
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for the Tambien: Cor's problem wins the Threadzilla award by 457 ZB PSGs - Please help : 444 C6th Lap Steel Modal Theory Site : 305 -------------------------------------------- it's a shame Mr Lashley won't partake here w: us and face the Musik of course he's not obliged too now is he ? hey, i'm not obliged to buy one of his steels either i'll just be glad to know that Cor got his $$$ back from the whirlwind here Rev Rick, you need any gas money ?
[This message was edited by CrowBear Schmitt on 13 November 2004 at 06:22 AM.] |
Farris Currie Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 13 November 2004 07:36 AM
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ever been in a spot where you were not allowed to say a thing?i have,had a man get hurt in my machine shop one time,did a stupid thing,the insurance company told me to keep my mouth shut!well that was against me and my machine shop!like to have killed me not to be able to say a word.the end it all worked out,man got paid,not my fault,i'm still pissed over it all.got to know both sides,i don't care what one says,always another story. i feel a happy ending comming on!!!lets shake hands and smile. farris |
Rick Garrett Member From: Tyler, Texas
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posted 13 November 2004 08:05 AM
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Good news is coming and I'm glad for all involved. Rick |
David L. Donald Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 13 November 2004 09:08 AM
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Farris, it is apples and oranges.No reason to think this is an insurance issue at all. No viable reason put forward directly or by proxy to validate keeping the money. Addressing the issue by proxy would have avoided, by hearsay, any issue a lawyer would have, if there was one on retainer who advised silence. Based on what I have seen, no reputable lwyer would likely advise anything but paying the man back., What little we may have seen by proxy was inverse to Cor and indeed all our efforts. It should NEVER have been neccesary for John to start this thread about Cor's problem.. PERIOD. Maybe Cor was "just not liked" by the other side, because of mis-communication or some such, but that still is no excuse. And we have the other factors speaking against probity on the company's part. Some is hearsay, but some is not. The BBB settlement a little ways back speaks to a pattern of people having disputes that need settling. This is on record. But much happens in ther world from word of mouth, and peoples sense of your honor. It amazes that a small company, any company would let it's good name be connected with unsavory practices. Even a giant like Enron is now paying the price for it's hubris. |
Farris Currie Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 13 November 2004 09:14 AM
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anyone noticed,Cor is missing!!! |
Rick Garrett Member From: Tyler, Texas
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posted 13 November 2004 09:58 AM
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You just can't hardly stand it can you Farris? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!Rick |
Farris Currie Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 13 November 2004 10:03 AM
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No comments Rick,been so much----slung here!! |
b0b Sysop From: Cloverdale, California, USA
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posted 13 November 2004 11:03 AM
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quote: anyone noticed,Cor is missing!!!
I take that as a good sign. As I said before, I will delete this topic when Cor is satisfied that the issue is resolved. I'm not really "in the loop", but if this humongous topic disappears you'll know why.------------------
Bobby Lee -b0b- quasar@b0b.com System Administrator |
Farris Currie Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 13 November 2004 11:19 AM
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you got it b0b,i'll say no more |
Bob Wood Member From: Campbell, California, USA
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posted 13 November 2004 11:53 AM
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b0b, Are you sure you really want to delete this post? What if they go ahead and finally settle with Cor just to turn around and do it to someone else? I think that after all this..., It would be a in-justice to potential guitar buyers. They need to hear what kind of "games" the Lashleys have been known to play on un-suspecting buyers of Steel Guitars. If they really come around and try to overcome the past, then let them prove themselves before you delete it! Otherwise we'll just be repeating these posts sometime in the future. Just my opinion!Bob |
Eric West Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA
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posted 13 November 2004 05:15 PM
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Somebody could/ should. and probably has saved the whole sordid saga and can at any time link to the whole html pages on their server.If I had an extra HDD I'd probably webspiderize the whole site. I should have done that with Bobbe's site just for the b0b trial alone, but alas.. EJL |
Tom Olson Member From: Spokane, WA
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posted 13 November 2004 10:25 PM
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Just out of curiosity(and, although it is none of my business) -- what criteria is used to determine whether a thread is deleted, or archived?  [This message was edited by Tom Olson on 13 November 2004 at 10:26 PM.] |
Chris Schlotzhauer Member From: Colleyville, Tx. USA
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posted 14 November 2004 02:16 AM
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Wow, I've been away on the road for two weeks. This thread has exploded. I'm glad to see b0b letting it run till it's resolved. I'll be back in town in a couple of days. It will take that to read it all. |
David L. Donald Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 14 November 2004 02:30 AM
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Tom see the memebrship agreement http://steelguitarforum.com/agree.html Basically they seem to apply : Common sense kindness vs nastyness legal logic avoidance of topic drift and sometimes... not shooting a dead horse AGAIN "We reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever, to deny service to individuals that we deem disruptive, and to terminate the service at any time without notice." You may also notice many things stated as what if's or maybe's, even though they may clearly be true from a common sense view, just to avoid legal issues for the posters or for the forum per se.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 14 November 2004 at 02:34 AM.] |
Joey Ace Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada
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posted 14 November 2004 09:55 AM
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quote: what criteria is used to determine whether a thread is deleted, or archived?
Good question, but discussion about the Forum belongs in "Feedback and Testing". I often do a search on products or people here to determine if I want to make a purchase. |
Dave Seddon Member From: Leicester, England.
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posted 14 November 2004 10:38 AM
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I have followed this thread for a long time and being a good friend of John Davis I am with him all the way. I e-mailed Ron Lashley Jnr several times requesting parts for the Emmons steel I had, without success. I sold it and went back to my old Sho-Bud rebuilt. My $10 is on its way to John and if this situation gets resolved then bOb gets the $10. C'mon Ron Jr. break the silence, you owe it to us all not just Cor. I would love a Le Grande, having tried one a few weeks ago but my money stays in my pocket at least till this situation is sorted. Dave |
Ron Steenwijk Member From: Greensburg,PA
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posted 14 November 2004 10:42 AM
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quote: Good news is coming and I'm glad for all involved.
Read the las page DaveRon Nikaro SD10 4x6 |
Klaus Caprani Member From: Copenhagen, Denmark
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posted 14 November 2004 11:31 AM
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quote: Read the las page Dave
Eh? Read what? This is exiting ------------------ Klaus Caprani MCI RangeXpander S-10 3x4 www.klauscaprani.com |
David L. Donald Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 14 November 2004 11:50 AM
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For me the thread closes when :a) Cor either has a steel in his living room, and/or on consignment in his neigborhood b) He has the cash in hand of what HE put out in HIS currency. If he sent 4,000 euros to get a $4,500 steel. That's what he should receive back. But if getting $4,500 in cash sent over gives him only 3,461.53€... If bought at 1 to 1 exchange rate, [guessing at time frame rate] It is now 1.3 to 1 so guestimating ( $4,500 / 130 = 34.6153€ x 100 ) 3,461.53€ If the delay in refund since he requested it, or not getting the steel period was caused by the company and not Cor, then that is an unfair loss for him. I know the $ exchange rate has tanked since he paid for the steel in full, I am sure it is much worse than when he asked for the refund. though the exact amount difference I don't know. But the time period above matches the worst fall in the diollar in 15 years. He is better off getting the steel to sell over here. (Since that is more likely than Ron Lashley ever paying in relation to the exchange rate.) When that happens close the thread... but only AFTER it is bird in hand.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 14 November 2004 at 11:52 AM.] |
tbhenry Member From: Chattanooga /USA
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posted 14 November 2004 05:07 PM
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Does anyone know if Lashley Emmons will be at the Dallas Show in March? |
Rick McDuffie Member From: Smithfield, North Carolina, USA
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posted 15 November 2004 08:48 AM
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I would say that to get excited would be, well, premature. Cor will let us know what comes next.Rick |
tbhenry Member From: Chattanooga /USA
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posted 16 November 2004 03:38 AM
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David, Where abouts is Brignon France? Have you beeen there a long time? Regards, tbh |
Doug Rolfe Member From: Indianapolis, IN
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posted 16 November 2004 05:28 AM
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As of now, it is not likely that they will be in Dallas for the show, IMHO!!! IF by chance they are, it would be a good thing for several of those who are interested in this post to ask them face to face what they are doing about solving Cor's problem. Either get his steel built or get his money back to him. |