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Lee Baucum
Member

From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) - The Final Frontier

posted 12 November 2004 09:21 AM     profile     
This thread should overtake the ZB thread very soon. Just a few more posts.
Jim Phelps
Member

From: just out of Mexico City

posted 12 November 2004 10:49 AM     profile     
.

[This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 17 November 2004 at 07:11 PM.]

Rick Garrett
Member

From: Tyler, Texas

posted 12 November 2004 10:57 AM     profile     
Way to go Rick! Cor there's your way out of this mess. Congrats to you both.

You would think the Emmons company would be a little better at public relations rather than to slap the very people who buy their product. I can't believe the people who think because "They got their parts" in a timely fashion that Cor's problem should be swept under the rug. Good luck guys and I hope you break them from sucking eggs!

Rick

Ron Steenwijk
Member

From: Greensburg,PA

posted 12 November 2004 11:05 AM     profile     
quote:
This thread should overtake the ZB thread very soon.

one more to go

Ron

Nikaro SD10 4x6

Randy Pettit
Member

From: Van Alstyne, Texas USA

posted 12 November 2004 11:10 AM     profile     
Perhaps Larry Chung could weigh in on this situation?
b0b
Sysop

From: Cloverdale, California, USA

posted 12 November 2004 11:20 AM     profile     
The difference is that the ZB topic is a permanent resource for ZB information. This topic will be deleted when Cor's problem is resolved.
Larry Chung
Member

From: San Francisco, CA, USA

posted 12 November 2004 11:21 AM     profile     
OK, OK, OK. Uncle, already. (:

This is kinda like that Twighlight Zone episode with Jack Klugman as the wanna be pool champion, right? Well, it was nice having the "longest" post, but all things must come to an end, eh?

Cor, I haven't even read through the entire post here, but I hope you are well and that the issue resolves itself well. Now I know how the rest of you must feel like when you see the ZB post... (: By the way, keep the ZB-info coming.

All ZBest and more power to the Forum!
Larry

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Larry Chung
'67 ZB D-10 8+4
'71 ZB Custom S-11 4+4
'70 ZB D-10 8+2

HowardR
Member

From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 12 November 2004 11:29 AM     profile     
Wow! A guest appearance from a competator threader. How cool is that?

Now perhaps we'll get to the "core" of this problem.

[This message was edited by HowardR on 12 November 2004 at 11:31 AM.]

RON PRESTON
Member

From: Dodson, Louisiana, USA

posted 12 November 2004 12:57 PM     profile     
Yes, Howard, I AGREE.
I,m running REAL SHORT on POPCORN, Not to mention I am TOTALY OUT of SODA to drink, (Talk about Cotton Mouth.....) and I haven't the TIME to drive the SEVEN MILES to the nearest store to get any soda, and anyway, I CAN'T MOVE because my SKINNY 'Lil REAR is a TOTAL PART of my 'PUTER THRONE NOW, and My Lovely wife, Cathy, well, she's got me on "LIFE SUPPORT" (She IS an RN ya Know?) now due to my RELENTLESS AGEING day by day due to STARIN' at this monitor. Now THAT's a LOT of "DAZE" because, now that I think about it, I can't REMEMBER the LAST TIME I LOOKED at The CLOCK, But, I THINK it was SOMETIME back when this "ABBOTT vs. COSTELLO" thread STARTED. (NOW, Let me say ALSO, I KNOW and REALIZE just how SERIOUS this matter is, so, Guys, PLEASE, I am NOT making Fun of this situation, but it has gotten to the point that one can feel "GIDDY" following this VERY UNCERTAIN situation, and there has been ENOUGH FLAMES here. So, If I have "Stepped out of Line" here, then feel free to Email me and I will apologize PROMPLY. And Mr.Cor, I'm Just trying to BRIGHTEN things, that's all, and I AM PRAYING for BOTH PARTYS and ALL INVOLVED who is helping You. May God Bless ALL of you.

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Emmons S-10 4 & 5
Evans FET 500, Session 400 LTD, ProFex 11

David L. Donald
Member

From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

posted 12 November 2004 01:51 PM     profile     
quote:
This topic will be deleted when Cor's problem is resolved.

Quite right and appropriate.

This thread, this group communication
will not be floating around forever taking the company to task for it's hard heartedness...

It will eventually disapear.

But for many the Lashley's apperant attitude toward Cor,
will not so easily fade away..
and they can NOT blame US,
nor blame Cor.

Didn't daddy ever explain : "Don't pee upstream from the well."

For whatever reasons... push was forced to become shove.

I am sure I am not alone in wishing this thread never got to 15 pages and 600 posts....
but it is not up to me.

No adequate explaination of why the man should not get his money back has ever been put forward.
So until the wheels of justice roll forward, or "Dawn breaks over Marblehead", we go on...

Oh, but were it not neccesary!

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 12 November 2004 at 01:59 PM.]

Rick McDuffie
Member

From: Smithfield, North Carolina, USA

posted 12 November 2004 01:56 PM     profile     
I have heard from Cor. Stay tuned.
John Lazarus
Member

From: Tucson, AZ.

posted 12 November 2004 02:21 PM     profile     
Could someone with some computer knowledge email a copy of this complete thread to the Emmons Co?
It would be nice to know for sure that they are aware what a pot of boiling water they may be stepping into.
Tom Olson
Member

From: Spokane, WA

posted 12 November 2004 02:32 PM     profile     
I hope Cor's problem doesn't turn into a Coors problem Sorry, just thought I'd try to provide some light-hearted merriment during intermission.
Farris Currie
Member

From: Ona, Florida, USA

posted 12 November 2004 03:26 PM     profile     
John it's already known,and Tom POP A TOP again!!huh!!!!!
Joey Ace
Sysop

From: Southern Ontario, Canada

posted 12 November 2004 05:07 PM     profile     
John,
They read it. I have proof.

I can't say more, but I know, without a doubt, this is true.

If history is any indication, once things get too hot, they will give Cor his guitar. They'll claim it had nothing to do with this discussion. Their supporters will say, "See, they were going to do the right thing anyway".

At least it will be resolved.

Rick McDuffie
Member

From: Smithfield, North Carolina, USA

posted 13 November 2004 05:31 AM     profile     
Joey, you are a prophet.
David L. Donald
Member

From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

posted 13 November 2004 05:35 AM     profile     
Hhhmmmm, interesting
CrowBear Schmitt
Member

From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

posted 13 November 2004 06:19 AM     profile     
for the Tambien:
Cor's problem wins the Threadzilla award by 457
ZB PSGs - Please help : 444
C6th Lap Steel Modal Theory Site : 305
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it's a shame Mr Lashley won't partake here w: us and face the Musik
of course he's not obliged too now is he ?
hey, i'm not obliged to buy one of his steels either
i'll just be glad to know that Cor got his $$$ back from the whirlwind here
Rev Rick, you need any gas money ?

[This message was edited by CrowBear Schmitt on 13 November 2004 at 06:22 AM.]

Farris Currie
Member

From: Ona, Florida, USA

posted 13 November 2004 07:36 AM     profile     
ever been in a spot where you were not allowed to say a thing?i have,had a man get hurt in my machine shop one time,did a stupid thing,the insurance company told me to keep my mouth shut!well that was against me and my machine shop!like to have killed me not to be able to say a word.the end it all worked out,man got paid,not my fault,i'm still pissed over it all.got to know both sides,i don't care what one says,always another story. i feel a happy ending comming on!!!lets shake hands and smile. farris
Rick Garrett
Member

From: Tyler, Texas

posted 13 November 2004 08:05 AM     profile     
Good news is coming and I'm glad for all involved.

Rick

David L. Donald
Member

From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

posted 13 November 2004 09:08 AM     profile     
Farris, it is apples and oranges.

No reason to think this is an insurance issue at all.

No viable reason put forward directly or by proxy to validate keeping the money.

Addressing the issue by proxy would have avoided, by hearsay, any issue a lawyer would have,
if there was one on retainer who advised silence.

Based on what I have seen, no reputable lwyer would likely advise anything but paying the man back.,

What little we may have seen by proxy was inverse to Cor and indeed all our efforts.

It should NEVER have been neccesary for John
to start this thread about Cor's problem.. PERIOD.

Maybe Cor was "just not liked" by the other side, because of mis-communication or some such,
but that still is no excuse.

And we have the other factors speaking against probity on the company's part. Some is hearsay, but some is not.
The BBB settlement a little ways back speaks to a pattern of people having disputes that need settling. This is on record.

But much happens in ther world from word of mouth,
and peoples sense of your honor.
It amazes that a small company, any company would let it's good name be connected with unsavory practices.
Even a giant like Enron is now paying the price for it's hubris.

Farris Currie
Member

From: Ona, Florida, USA

posted 13 November 2004 09:14 AM     profile     
anyone noticed,Cor is missing!!!
Rick Garrett
Member

From: Tyler, Texas

posted 13 November 2004 09:58 AM     profile     
You just can't hardly stand it can you Farris? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Rick

Farris Currie
Member

From: Ona, Florida, USA

posted 13 November 2004 10:03 AM     profile     
No comments Rick,been so much----slung here!!
b0b
Sysop

From: Cloverdale, California, USA

posted 13 November 2004 11:03 AM     profile     
quote:
anyone noticed,Cor is missing!!!
I take that as a good sign.

As I said before, I will delete this topic when Cor is satisfied that the issue is resolved. I'm not really "in the loop", but if this humongous topic disappears you'll know why.

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               Bobby Lee
-b0b-   quasar@b0b.com
 System Administrator

Farris Currie
Member

From: Ona, Florida, USA

posted 13 November 2004 11:19 AM     profile     
you got it b0b,i'll say no more
Bob Wood
Member

From: Campbell, California, USA

posted 13 November 2004 11:53 AM     profile     
b0b,
Are you sure you really want to delete this post? What if they go ahead and finally settle with Cor just to turn around and do it to someone else? I think that after all this..., It would be a in-justice to potential guitar buyers. They need to hear what kind of "games" the Lashleys have been known to play on un-suspecting buyers of Steel Guitars. If they really come around and try to overcome the past, then let them prove themselves before you delete it! Otherwise we'll just be repeating these posts sometime in the future. Just my opinion!

Bob

Eric West
Member

From: Portland, Oregon, USA

posted 13 November 2004 05:15 PM     profile     
Somebody could/ should. and probably has saved the whole sordid saga and can at any time link to the whole html pages on their server.

If I had an extra HDD I'd probably webspiderize the whole site.

I should have done that with Bobbe's site just for the b0b trial alone, but alas..

EJL

Tom Olson
Member

From: Spokane, WA

posted 13 November 2004 10:25 PM     profile     
Just out of curiosity(and, although it is none of my business) -- what criteria is used to determine whether a thread is deleted, or archived?

[This message was edited by Tom Olson on 13 November 2004 at 10:26 PM.]

Chris Schlotzhauer
Member

From: Colleyville, Tx. USA

posted 14 November 2004 02:16 AM     profile     
Wow, I've been away on the road for two weeks. This thread has exploded. I'm glad to see b0b letting it run till it's resolved. I'll be back in town in a couple of days. It will take that to read it all.
David L. Donald
Member

From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

posted 14 November 2004 02:30 AM     profile     
Tom see the memebrship agreement
http://steelguitarforum.com/agree.html

Basically they seem to apply :
Common sense
kindness vs nastyness
legal logic
avoidance of topic drift
and sometimes... not shooting a dead horse AGAIN

"We reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever, to deny service to individuals that we deem disruptive, and to terminate the service at any time without notice."

You may also notice many things stated as what if's or maybe's,
even though they may clearly be true from a common sense view,
just to avoid legal issues for the posters or for the forum per se.

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 14 November 2004 at 02:34 AM.]

Joey Ace
Sysop

From: Southern Ontario, Canada

posted 14 November 2004 09:55 AM     profile     
quote:
what criteria is used to determine whether a thread is deleted, or archived?

Good question, but discussion about the Forum belongs in "Feedback and Testing".

I often do a search on products or people here to determine if I want to make a purchase.

Dave Seddon
Member

From: Leicester, England.

posted 14 November 2004 10:38 AM     profile     
I have followed this thread for a long time and being a good friend of John Davis I am with him all the way. I e-mailed Ron Lashley Jnr several times requesting parts for the Emmons steel I had, without success. I sold it and went back to my old Sho-Bud rebuilt.
My $10 is on its way to John and if this situation gets resolved then bOb gets the $10. C'mon Ron Jr. break the silence, you owe it to us all not just Cor. I would love a Le Grande, having tried one a few weeks ago but my money stays in my pocket at least till this situation is sorted.
Dave
Ron Steenwijk
Member

From: Greensburg,PA

posted 14 November 2004 10:42 AM     profile     
quote:
Good news is coming and I'm glad for all involved.

Read the las page Dave

Ron

Nikaro SD10 4x6

Klaus Caprani
Member

From: Copenhagen, Denmark

posted 14 November 2004 11:31 AM     profile     
quote:
Read the las page Dave

Eh? Read what? This is exiting

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Klaus Caprani

MCI RangeXpander S-10 3x4
www.klauscaprani.com

David L. Donald
Member

From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

posted 14 November 2004 11:50 AM     profile     
For me the thread closes when :

a) Cor either has a steel in his living room,
and/or on consignment in his neigborhood

b) He has the cash in hand of what
HE put out in HIS currency.
If he sent 4,000 euros to get a $4,500 steel.
That's what he should receive back.

But if getting $4,500 in cash sent over gives him only 3,461.53€...
If bought at 1 to 1 exchange rate, [guessing at time frame rate]
It is now 1.3 to 1 so guestimating ( $4,500 / 130 = 34.6153€ x 100 ) 3,461.53€

If the delay in refund since he requested it,
or not getting the steel period was caused by the company and not Cor,
then that is an unfair loss for him.

I know the $ exchange rate has tanked since he paid for the steel in full,
I am sure it is much worse than when he asked for the refund.
though the exact amount difference I don't know.

But the time period above matches the worst fall in the diollar in 15 years.

He is better off getting the steel to sell over here.
(Since that is more likely than Ron Lashley ever paying in relation to the exchange rate.)

When that happens close the thread...

but only AFTER it is bird in hand.

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 14 November 2004 at 11:52 AM.]

tbhenry
Member

From: Chattanooga /USA

posted 14 November 2004 05:07 PM     profile     
Does anyone know if Lashley Emmons will be at the Dallas Show in March?
Rick McDuffie
Member

From: Smithfield, North Carolina, USA

posted 15 November 2004 08:48 AM     profile     
I would say that to get excited would be, well, premature. Cor will let us know what comes next.

Rick

tbhenry
Member

From: Chattanooga /USA

posted 16 November 2004 03:38 AM     profile     
David, Where abouts is Brignon France? Have you beeen there a long time? Regards, tbh
Doug Rolfe
Member

From: Indianapolis, IN

posted 16 November 2004 05:28 AM     profile     
As of now, it is not likely that they will be in Dallas for the show, IMHO!!! IF by chance they are, it would be a good thing for several of those who are interested in this post to ask them face to face what they are doing about solving Cor's problem.
Either get his steel built or get his money back to him.

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