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I do not know all of the facts on this topic. All I know is what I have read on the Forum. I believe that applies to most of us.
Let's assume that Emmons decides to produce a guitar for Cor. One would think that would be a very good public relations decision; however, do you think it is too late? Has there been permanent damage to the company's reputation?

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So, is it too late?

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"Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back into the same box."

Lee, from South Texas
Down On The Rio Grande

Two more things I would add
1 You have seen on this thread several times people saying you can go thro the court system. end up with a bit of paper saying you have won ! and
still get nothing!! This I am sorry to say has been my own experiance , (and this after a long hard fight!)
Cannot pay-- will not pay comes down to the same thing¬.

2You may not all agree with my proposal, I would not expect you all to, but what we can agree on is, we must all wish this topic was not here?
and IMHO the quickest way to achive this, is for us to resolve it ! This as a group we can do! and I would feel good to be part of that action.

he's got his mind set on that i think.But John has a nice idea.

Ron

Here's the most important factor about being in business and serving the general public; You can be in business for 50 years, make an excellent product and have a good reputation....UNTIL something like this occurs, then that 50 years of reputation goes right out the window. With today's technology in communication, communicating is essential.

There has been no substantial communication or direct representation from the Emmons Co. People fear the unknown and so everything is viewed in a negative perception. I do not believe that "any pubicity is good publicity."

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it's up to the crowd,i'm not having anymore to do with it. final!!!! farris

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IF not, then I have no problem chipping in a bit for travel related expenses.

I am not in favor of buying out Emmons debt to Cor on the other hand.
That would give them licence to think they can continue down this path indefinitely. Not a good thing.

I do like Jim's idea of starting a simple thread, not this one, but one saying as succinctly as possible :

MUIZER vs. LASHLEY Petition
" I am signing this petition against purchasing a NEW Lashley built steel,
until the situation with Cor is dealt with in a fair, equitable and public manner.
The longer this drags on, the less likely I EVER will buy a Lashley product. "

Keeping that thread short and sweet, and using this one for discussion.

Howard said a lot,.
Yes you can shoot your own foot ,or fatally step on your pud, even after 50 years in business.
And it can be MORE SO these days.

Mr. Lashley... it really appears you are harming yourselves
MORE than Cor at this point. Will it take a precipitous decline in pre-orders for this to sink in.

Remember there are several mouthy types here,
but think too of the 1000's of silent people and non members,
who are still steel purchasers, all seeing this.

Is it good business sense to alienate your customer base?
Me thinks not.

Or will it be too late before it does sink in?
What is that old aphorism :
"Pride cometh before a fall."

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 06 November 2004 at 11:54 AM.]

I know I'm going to when I get up later today.

Ron

Nor is deploring their bad business practices,
a critique of their quality of instruments.
But, there are many builders with product in a very close range with a LaGrande. Only a very few would be put truely out changing from a LaGrande to a
Zum, Mullen, Franklin, Fulawka, Carter, MSA, GFI, or even Promat.

The question on the table is whether or not to
threaten with a boycot of FUTURE purchases of Lashley built steels.

Or at the least show the potential damage to the company of such a boycot ,
if it went onto effect.

A petition might show hard numberrs of those who think Cor has been mistreated,
and what effect this could POTENTIALLY have on the Lashley run company.

I would like an old PP,
but getting a new LaGrande his out of the question....

I already know, living in Europe, I couldn't trust them to treat me the same as someone in Nashville. Even with having a few USA connections.

I am curious, how many ALSO have problems getting replacement parts from the Lashley company...??

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 07 November 2004 at 08:19 AM.]

It's an entirely different matter. Heck even Buddy still palys one, and he had a falling out with the company years ago.

I've considered removing the logo, it's only three screws, and easily replaced, but I don't think I will.

I do direct any questions by newbies, who ask aboutEmmons to this, and other discussions. I'd hate anyone else to loose money in this way.

it has nothing to do with the name emmons,
or the emmons guitar.

it is how the people behind it treat there customer(s)

but let me say this i treat my lashley legrande t-shirts now for polishing and waxing my car and the most of them were brand new.

cor

[This message was edited by Cor Muizer Jr on 07 November 2004 at 11:37 AM.]

so lets wait what this brings me.

and lets go here

ooh'' and thank you Randy.

cor

[This message was edited by Cor Muizer Jr on 07 November 2004 at 01:57 PM.]

But I'll write.

It might be usefull to post a concise synopsis of the facts.
Since they are some what scattered through this thread.
But don't just cut an paste it into your letter,
re-write it in your own words.

Well spell't or not.

Actually I suspect e-mails of a high volume would get someone's attention.

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 07 November 2004 at 02:48 PM.]

Then after b0b deletes it, I'll sell it back to everyone for .99 cents..

oh..but wait..what if it never ends ? Easy..I'll publish the second printing !

t

[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 08 November 2004 at 02:02 AM.]