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Joey Ace Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada
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posted 27 October 2004 08:18 PM
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Rick, Danny offered to do that months ago. That's the problem. No guitar. No refund.  Jerry, My understanding is a new order requires new payment. If your plan would work, then Rick or Danny should be able to get it. [This message was edited by Joey Ace on 27 October 2004 at 08:22 PM.] |
Rick McDuffie Member From: Smithfield, North Carolina, USA
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posted 27 October 2004 08:22 PM
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Oh.  This is the darnedest policy I've ever heard of. I'll gladly place the identical order, but would I then have to put up another $4500? Doesn't that make $9,000 they'd be holding at one time? For a guitar that hasn't been built yet? Geez.[This message was edited by Rick McDuffie on 27 October 2004 at 08:39 PM.] |
John Steele Member From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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posted 27 October 2004 08:34 PM
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Most newly built guitars have an approximate waiting period. Has this elapsed ? -John |
Stephen Gambrell Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA
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posted 27 October 2004 10:00 PM
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Danny, are you still an Emmons dealer? Are any of the rest of the good folks on here Emmons dealers? This whole situation stinks, and I have a couple of questions. I called the company, back when this thread was only a couple of pages long. I spoke with Rebecca, who told me that Cor hadn't sent the money at all!!?? So do any of you Emmons dealers have any NEW Emmons guitars? How long did you have to wait for them? How much front money did you have to put up? See, I can't figure why Cor would have had to send the ENTIRE 4500.00, prior to getting, or in Cor's case, NOT getting, his guitar built. So how about it, Emmons dealers? Any more of you out there? Care to comment, as Danny has done? |
John Davis Member From: Cambridge, U.K.
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posted 27 October 2004 11:56 PM
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Danny thank you so much for putting some real light on this subject,I was beginning to think I was on my own here!And I applaud all you others for at last seeing the injustice here!! Now how about some practical help? Can anyone reccomend a good debt collector in the Burlington area that would act for Cor? I have been trying for weeks to get him a lawyer but they are not interested I guess the amount of money involved is too small ! As I have said before litigation at 3000miles on a limited budget is impossible, and I believe the Emmons company knows it too!! Good to see the power of this forum in action!!! |
Jim Phelps Member From: just out of Mexico City
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posted 28 October 2004 12:28 AM
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Johan Jansen Member From: Europe
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posted 28 October 2004 12:53 AM
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No Laywers on this forum that can help Cor? It's not to bring down Emmons, but to see if this policy is allowed in the States. Uphere in Europe this is not possible. If there will be a fundraising, let it then be for this case. Cor, I hope there will be a solution, you deserve it!! Johan |
Ron Steenwijk Member From: Greensburg,PA
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posted 28 October 2004 01:42 AM
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The weirdest policy i have ever heard of.Like Johan said in The Netherlands this is not possible. And is it not so that if a company is changing their policy they are obligated to put that down in their contracts. If i am buying a guitar from a company in 2003 and in 2004 they are changing their policy they still will have to obey the contract.And that contract is set on the date that i did put in my order......2003.It's o.k. when a company changes their policy.But if they do so they will have to let everybody know that they ere changing them.In all of the posts above i can see that none of you knew about this change.Neither did i. And i agree with everybody that says that Emmons should have answered to Cor or any attorney.And till now they have not done so. And as far as the ordering goes....i am a steel builder myself but i still like the sound of an Emmons PP. And i like the looks of that new one that's on the site.Guess i will have to wait on how this story ends. Ron Nikaro SD10 4x6[This message was edited by Ronald Steenwijk on 28 October 2004 at 01:43 AM.] |
Per Berner Member From: Skövde, Sweden
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posted 28 October 2004 02:33 AM
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If all this really is true, it's the worst business practices I have ever heard of - a family-run operation referring to "company policies" stopping them from refunding money. Totally ridiculous - the guy IS the company! Not even a politician could come up with that much bull####....tonight, I will peel the Lashley decal off of my Legrande.
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Jimmy Gibson Member From: Cornwall, England
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posted 28 October 2004 03:51 AM
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What`s going on here?are Emmons calling Cor a liar? now Rebeca saye that Cor did not even send the money ,i would have thought if that was the case,they could say that about all their sales that have gone wrong and seems up to now they are getting away with it.Why i am saying this is a good friend of mine had a problem with Emmons who made promisses they did not keep,they gave him a price of a new guitar and he had to wait for over a year, and in that time the price went up,their excuse, he told me was the parts were costing more to be made.I know this is getting away from the original topic but if that is the case whats to stop other steel manufacts doing the same,thank the lord most of them are good honest people who i am sure would not change their word on prices with out letting you know when you are buying a steel from them.I do not mean to run any one down but honesty is the best policy.JG |
Chris Schlotzhauer Member From: Colleyville, Tx. USA
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posted 28 October 2004 06:29 AM
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CrowBear Schmitt Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 28 October 2004 07:44 AM
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Thanx Danny for settin' things straight i think i understand better why Bobbie has chosen Mullen & relegated Emmons elsewhere it's still a shame that Emmons Co has'nt stood up & been heard their silence is eloquent so are customers & their hard earned money[This message was edited by CrowBear Schmitt on 28 October 2004 at 11:04 AM.] |
Danny Hullihen Member From: Harrison, Michigan
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posted 28 October 2004 08:00 AM
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I just noticed the post above this one from Rains Steel Guitars. Some of you might be thinking that as an unappropriate advertisement? However, I believe I can relate to this. Cor emailed me a while back about Rains Steel Guitars, and I could tell by the tone in his writing that he was extreamely touched by an offer they made him to build a steel guitar for him at no cost to him. A more nobel jesture than that I can't imagine! The offer made by Rains shows me that there is indeed a genuine concern for what has happened to a fellow steel player, and a great deal of compassion for Cor on a personal level. Although very commendable, the sad part is, (or at least from what I understand here) Cor is disabled to a point now where he can no longer play the steel guitar anymore, and that, dear Forumites, is the most tragic part in all of this. Financial losses can be quite painful, and in some cases, something you might never be able to forget about. However, I don't think there can be anything much more painful than waking up one day having to deal with the fact that you will never again in your lifetime, be able to do something you loved so much! In this case, playing the steel guitar. Regarding Emmons Guitar Company, to even think that a person and/or company would come up with such a ludicrious policy like that is beyond ridiculous! "Policy"? Perhaps that's one way of putting it, but I don't think so. When I consider the detailed requiste in this case, albeit ridiculous, I would hardly call that any kind of policy. I would call that, "let's make up the rules as we go"! Here again, the Emmons guitar Company is offering Cor a full refund of his money, but in order for that to happen someone has to place an order for a guitar "exactly the same" as what Cor had on order. Go figure? The stories I could tell about the many unethical business practices at the Emmons guitar company would make you all very ill! I know this is all very unsetteling to all of us. Not only because of what has and is happening to our friend Cor, but also because of what it does to our many years of faith, pride, and dedication to Emmons Guitars, and its founders. It's kind of like a marraige gone bad... a love/hate situation that just rips you up inside. The part that bothers me most about this is that Ron has been afforded several oportunities to try to make this right with Cor. Preferably with a refund, but if not that,then other options as was offered. Unfortunately, it appears at this time Ron doesn't want to entertain ANY offers or options, not even correspondence with Cor. I don't think there are any doubts in our minds that the folks at Emmons have been reading these posts, and I'm sure they have. Perhaps it's a simple matter of they cannot afford to refund Cor's money? Hey, that can happen to any company, and it's understandable. However, to just ignore Cor, and all these posts that are saying, "hey Emmons, don't you care even a little bit" well guys... I'm sorry to say, but it just doesn't leave much faith in them doing the right thing here. The Emmons guitar and name is an icon in this industry, and has been for many decades. This is a guitar company that literally set the "industry standards" for tone for others to follow. I don't think there's a steel guitar manufacturer out there that would disagree with that. No question about it, the Emmons Push-Pull "tone" was the holy grail many others have been trying to copy for years, and today, I believe some have sincerely accomplished that. Regardless of all the above, I sincerely feel it would be a great loss to many if the company were to fold. When I think about the countless injustices that have been done to many (self included) by the Emmons Guitar company, I must agree with you that they certainly don't deserve to be in business anymore, and Cor's deal has really put the icing on the cake, so to speak. When I think about the big picture here, had any other steel guitar company done repeatedly what Emmons has done, they would have been forced out of business long ago. Personally speaking, I think they are a heluvalot luckier right now than they realize. |
Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 28 October 2004 08:29 AM
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Maybe they simply don't have the money. |
Donny Hinson Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 28 October 2004 08:54 AM
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But, they do have guitars, don't they? |
Farris Currie Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 28 October 2004 09:01 AM
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this really hurts all,Emmons has been here for us for so long.I don't even begin to understand,just hope and pray it can be solved.No John i don't own any stock in the company at all.I just hurt when others are hurting.don't like to see no one done wrong.yes my heart bleeds for Emmons,it must be pure hell going thru what i'm sure they are.being a poor guy most my life,always robbing from peter to pay paul.just trying to make it.and yes for cor to,i'm sure he wants to get this straightend out.i'm not going to say no more,just pray for it to get straightend out.many companys go for bankrupt then nobody don't get nothing. i give them credit as far as i know this hasn't taken place.tells me something. farris |
John Davis Member From: Cambridge, U.K.
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posted 28 October 2004 09:12 AM
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Danny that is an incredible offer From Rains and speaks volumes for sombody else`s business ethics! When I made my original suggestion on this topic that everyone sends me ten bucks and I account for it and we as a group could reimburse Cor the response so far has been less than impressive! I think we still have some way to go to harness the power of this forum. This was not done to get the Emmons Co off the hook,more to shame them into doing the right thing!! And while I think about it, anyone who sends ten bucks and does not want to be named in my "good guy" list to be published later, let me know and you can remain anon. |
Cor Muizer Jr Member From: The Netherlands/europe
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posted 28 October 2004 09:52 AM
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at first i would say thank you all guys here for reading and posting.but i like to thank Danny first because he was the only one that really knows this story because of his phone call he did then with Ron,jr. and he knows that i was paying the $4500,00 and now i'm reading here that Rebecca says that they never received the money, they are lying everytime. they cashed it on 9 december 2003 by a moneygram office in the same street as where they settled. and let me point out here something that i already said earlier, i never pay in front ( only $500,00 to process the order ). but i pay for a guitar that should be ready but was laying on stock for me,but after i called them and say i have the money and it comes right next to you in a minute, they said okay we will hold it up there at the moneygram office . i was sending $4000,00 plus the $500,00 in front makes $4500,00 9 december 2003. and then when i called them if they received it they said Cor we sold your guitar and you agree with that. so i was totally suprised because i never send so much money for nothing, but tricky from them to tell me after i was sending and they where cashed it. anyway so naief i was i told ron build me a new one and he says okay, i ask how long does it takes he stated 12 till 18 weeks i said okay in march or april. Well then at the end of may nothing but my healthy was going worser because of my big caraccident i was having 2 years before. and it was so worse that i must decide to quit with playing and don't wanna put a brand new expensive guitar under my bed, so i called ron and told him the news and he said ooh your guitar is just finished and it looks good i would take pictures. i said yes but find another customer for it and he said okay but you have to wait till i found someone and then you could get your money back i said okay but not to long ,and he said okay we will do our best. then a couple month's later i hear nothing and put here on the forum if there was maybe something wrong there because of the silence. then danny came in and ask me if he could help me to sell it for me because he has more customers or contact's and i said okay danny do me a favor and called ron,jr and ask for my guitar. wel he did right after our phonecall and he found out the guitar was never build. and he also knows that i have paid for $4500,00 because ron,jr told him that many times and now somebody came up here with the message from Rebecca that they never received my money ( rediculous ain't it? ) well any way hoping you guy's and great forumites will now see the other side of the story and that i'm not telling lies or rumors it is absolutely true and i was a big emmons fan and lover so it hurts me more then you will ever know!! finally after 20 years order a emmons and gets this. and Ronald keep building your own steels they look great and if they sounds as they looks ''KEEP IT BUILDING MY FRIEND'' so my hands keep coming painfull from typing here so i like to say till next time and thank you all here and don't forget it is not my style to keep them down but they will doing it to themselves on this way and on the other way nobody deserves it to stay in the busyness as they do it like this way. (and here at the end of my writing i like to thanks John Davis because of his experience he is doing on this case.) Cor[This message was edited by Cor Muizer Jr on 28 October 2004 at 09:54 AM.] [This message was edited by Cor Muizer Jr on 28 October 2004 at 09:55 AM.] [This message was edited by Cor Muizer Jr on 28 October 2004 at 12:53 PM.] |
Cor Muizer Jr Member From: The Netherlands/europe
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posted 28 October 2004 08:53 PM
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and bump this thread up many times as needed.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ cor |
Jim Phelps Member From: just out of Mexico City
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posted 28 October 2004 09:21 PM
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David L. Donald Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 28 October 2004 11:54 PM
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quote: That's the problem. No guitar. No refund.
No guitar means... Emmons / Lashley never used the parts for this instrument, nor the labor. If there WAS partial labor, it was on another guitar long since sold... whichever color orset up it had..An arbitrary rule about build list is the purest BS, a) they took the money, b) the order was cancelled before delivery c) the order was cancelled before it was built d) if ANY parts were pre-ordeded or colated for this specific guitar, they have long since gone off on another guitar of some set up. e) The difference in color, or exact setup is irrelevant because it is likely the cost of another similar color, it is likely the cost of another set up, or the parts get used on a 3rd possible instrument. f) no delivery, then on to return of payment list.. This is based on the laws of most any state. And likely federal inter-state laws as well. The arguements by Ron are totally arbitrary, and specious at best. Is he the boss? Or is it a commeittee of 3? Is this company so big, like Enron, they have no ability to deal with things on an instrument by instrument, case by case, sale by sale basis. Their arguments DO NOT hold water. But they do make one think the company is on the edge, and that it will not treat a customer fairly. I think the $4,500 will be the least of the company's problems ongoing... The public goodwill is in the hopper.
How many people here would put down a deposit with this company... when so many used steels are out there. And then even with a used one, I wouldn't feel good sending cash for more parts... You have several potential customers publicly saying : I won't buy... How many non posters think the same? Worse yet, I hate to see Buddy's family name dragged though the mud, when he is in no way at fault here. In essences a Lashley Public relations catastrophy.
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John Davis Member From: Cambridge, U.K.
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posted 29 October 2004 01:15 AM
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I think you got that about right David, But if you fart in a spacesuit you have to live with the smell!!!!! Sorry have I gone off topic here?? |
Lee Baucum Member From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) - The Final Frontier
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posted 29 October 2004 06:13 AM
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I do not know all of the facts on this topic. All I know is what I have read on the Forum. I believe that applies to most of us. Let's assume that Emmons decides to produce a guitar for Cor. One would think that would be a very good public relations decision; however, do you think it is too late? Has there been permanent damage to the company's reputation? ------------------ Lee, from South Texas Down On The Rio Grande |
Farris Currie Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 29 October 2004 06:32 AM
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HELLO LEE,i'd say no,it's not to late.Emmons don't have to answer to us!their deal was with Cor.,and if he canceled the order,and screwed things up.they are just like so many other companies with a long waiting list!!Just my opinion!!!!Why would they come on here,and go to blabbing?? not to smart in my judgement!!!!! farris |
Cor Muizer Jr Member From: The Netherlands/europe
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posted 29 October 2004 07:21 AM
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Farris i thought you were a nice man you didn't understands the issue!!!!i didn't cancellled the order i say ron,jr sell it to another customer i can't play it but it was never build instead of ron,jr said it was ready to go so they lie to me and still do. and they didn't contact me or responde on my emails but they owe me my $4500,00 i didn't understand that this is possible in the states, as say before by the two other people from the netherlands here on this, by us in the netherlands it isn't possible to do this through customers. so read the post carefully before you come up with things!!!!
sorry thats my opinion everytime you come up here with something. ooh' and Lee thanks for coming in but i heard that i'm not the first one that have trouble with them and if i had ever know it before i can tell you that i wouldn't do busyness with them. and jimmy and all of you guys here i order a rains steelguitar and will lay it under my bed hoping in the future i can go on with steel playing. but this has never anything to do with the emmons story. greetings guys cor [This message was edited by Cor Muizer Jr on 29 October 2004 at 08:01 AM.] [This message was edited by Cor Muizer Jr on 29 October 2004 at 08:07 AM.] [This message was edited by Cor Muizer Jr on 29 October 2004 at 08:21 AM.] [This message was edited by Cor Muizer Jr on 29 October 2004 at 08:28 AM.] [This message was edited by Cor Muizer Jr on 29 October 2004 at 08:28 AM.] [This message was edited by Cor Muizer Jr on 29 October 2004 at 08:30 AM.] |
Cor Muizer Jr Member From: The Netherlands/europe
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posted 29 October 2004 08:35 AM
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and i will take off here,you all guys here know what is going on said by me by Danny and by John. and for the last time it is true!!!!!!! cor
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Cor Muizer Jr Member From: The Netherlands/europe
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posted 29 October 2004 09:19 AM
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ooh sorry forgoy to sayif you look for a new guitar that is perfectly build and sounds as good as is look call Bob Rains and order you one in my opinion taste is a personal thing but nothing can beat this great guitar so thats the last one here cor |
Ron Steenwijk Member From: Greensburg,PA
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posted 29 October 2004 10:25 AM
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Cor.You can't argue over taste. IMHO Emmons build the best Steel guitars ever made.And uptill now they continue to do so.What has happened to you has nothing to do with the fact that the Emmons guitar is a great sounding and playing instrument.I owned two guitars made by Emmons and never had any problems with them. All of us agree on the fact that if you are entitled to a refund you should have it. I can understand Farris' point of view when it comes to the Emmons company.The only thing that he would like to say is that there are so many Steelers around the world that would hate to see Emmons go down the toilet. I can understand that there is nothing you would rather see.If it were me i would think the same way.And it sure is a good thing that you are being compensated by Rains guitars.Allthough i am not sure if they are the ones that should do so. Please don't get me wrong about this because you and I have always been good friends and i would love to stay that way. Ron Nikaro SD10 4x6[This message was edited by Ronald Steenwijk on 29 October 2004 at 10:26 AM.] |
Farris Currie Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 29 October 2004 12:32 PM
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hello cor,does this mean that you have got your rains??have you played one yet?just wondering way it sounds you must have had access to one, man i'd like to know myself!! do you really like it that well??let me know i'm very interested in how it is playing for you?????? farris |
Jim Phelps Member From: just out of Mexico City
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posted 29 October 2004 02:54 PM
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Farris Currie Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 29 October 2004 03:07 PM
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HEY JIM,thinking of you last night on the news was talking about old mexico, and rats in one town was chasing the cats ect.can't do nothing with them.you having any problems with that? better watch your guitars, might eat them too! man thats hard to believe wow, have a good night JIM farris |
Jim Phelps Member From: just out of Mexico City
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posted 29 October 2004 03:10 PM
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Joey Ace Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada
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posted 29 October 2004 03:11 PM
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Good point about America, Jim.I often wondered how much trouble legit businesses in Nigeria encounter. I know I wouldn't deal with them, even though I know in my heart that the crooks are a small percentage.
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David L. Donald Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 29 October 2004 05:21 PM
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Ah yes the old stiff the foreigner ploy.They don't matter they are not in out legal jusrisdiction. Or not in our normal demographic, or heck they's strangers, not like" US." But Jim's point on it being a bad reflection on America is telling also, and a new twist.. Yes folks the world is watching us RIGHT NOW. To see what we think, and how we act. Just like we are watching Lashley... It is very possible our individual actions will have both small and grave consequences , for ALL americans in and out of the USA proper. The board of directors is about to make a decision, that affects everything, not just company functioning and policy, And all others are watching and waiting to decide, what they wil do in concequence or responce. Just as this one incident over a pedal steel is being reflected world wide, and no doubt affecting the future of Lashley in some way negatively. Our actions as individuals will also be seen and interacted with world wide also. DO we all acknowledge we are not alone, like Lashley should, or think, gee we run our own show, no one else matters. The USA may be a big country, but it's a small world.... Lashley may make a great steel, but people are watching and deciding if they want to deal with them... Are there no parallels here?
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Johan Jansen Member From: Europe
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posted 30 October 2004 03:22 AM
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Is there anyone on the forum that has a copy of the Emmons-policy on paper? Maybe the Emmons-company itsself?Would make things more clearer here on the forum, without getting into an emotional rash. If I understand right: Emmons cashed the money from Cor, and also sold the guitar to another customer? Am I confused, or did they cash $9K for a guitar? As long as there is no clear statement on paper from Emmons about this issue, there is nothing to agree or disagree with them. Cor, I hope there is a solution. Please, stay friendly to the Emmons company, and record every phonecall with them. Maybe then you have a point  regards and take care! Johan |
Ron Steenwijk Member From: Greensburg,PA
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posted 30 October 2004 03:36 AM
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JohanThe Emmons company should have a policy copy on the internet aswell because you can order from the internet.I have looked for one on their site but i do not see one. quote: As long as there is no clear statement on paper from Emmons about this issue, there is nothing to agree or disagree with them.
What you are saying is that there can't be anything done.. I totaly disagree with you on that.If there is no such policy then they are entitled to collect and decide wether to build or not to build a steel?? Ron
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Johan Jansen Member From: Europe
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posted 30 October 2004 03:41 AM
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quote: I doubt if the average American is very aware of it, but having lived outside the U.S. for about a year now I've become aware that the eyes of the world are upon the U.S. and our actions. The world is very interested in the goings on in the U.S. and even just how we act as a people. I believe most of the world has respect for America and Americans, even if some don't particularly seem to like us.
Jim: people in the whole world are worried, about what' s going on in political ways. This has nothing to do with the normal people like us! policies that are 'discussable' have their roots everywhere in the world. I have personally never met an American a$$hole, and I hope I never will!  regards, Johan |
Ron Steenwijk Member From: Greensburg,PA
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posted 30 October 2004 04:10 AM
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DavidIf this incident alters a persons thoughts about America they are out of their mind.It does not alter my thoughts about you people. People may agree or disagree about some issue's on the forum now and then.But that does not give 'em the right to think that all American's are the same. quote: Jim's point on it being a bad reflection on America is telling also, and a new twist..
It takes a lot more to make me change my mind about America.There are a few rotten apples in the basket and they spoil everything. But that won't say that all you people look bad.I got some nice folks on my MSN messenger that are Americans and they are a lot nicer then some folks around here.I always get a response when i ask them something about steel guitars or other questionsPeople are people. Everybody makes misstakes........i sure do. Ron Nikaro SD10 4x6 |
B.Jenkins Member From: Parkersburg, WV...U.S.A
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posted 30 October 2004 05:57 AM
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Someone said that Rebecca lied, about not receiving Cor's check, when infact he has the cancaeled check that shows where they cashed it. The fact is, this isn't the first time that Both the Lashleys have lied to a customer there good at it, and when your on the phone with them asking about your guitar, they will tell you just what you want to hear,So they can get you off of the phone, knowing full well in what there telling you is a bold face lie.. How do I know? It happened to me and 5 other fellow steelers awhile back. I have 9 different shipping dates that Rebecca gave me over the phone before they actually did ship my steel , but that was 6 months after all of the 9 shipping dates and UPS tracking numbers she gave me. So I contacted the Attorney general in my state and in North Carolina as well, And they both took my case with no problems at all, the difference between how I went about dealing with The Emmons co. and what Cor done is, I audio taped every conversation that Rebecca or Ron and I had via telephone,after the second phone call with the company and being told two different stories. So when I called the attorney generals office and told them my suitation , they sent me forms to fill out and return back to them , along with mu support papers showing where I had paid for my steel, but I also sent them 2 audio tapes of our phone converstion from all of the past months of being told one thing or another and where she mentioned 9 different times it was to be shipped , It wasnt very long after they received the forms and tapes, I got a phone call telling me that my steel would be shipped within a few days.. And this time she did't lie about it, they did ship for once.. But I would never buy anything from them two again. |
Joey Ace Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada
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posted 30 October 2004 08:09 AM
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Yes Billy, I remember your problem quite well. It had this forum in quite an uproar, between defenders of the company and supporters of your side.I always remember the late Harry Hess when I think of your problem. Harry went far out of his way to help you. I was surprised when you sold your new Emmons so fast. I saw your ad on the same day Harry passed away. I thought that was so ironic. There's many similar stories, such as http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/007315.html Some have suggested Buddy should get involved. Page Two of this link has his comments. |