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Topic: ZB Pedal Steel Guitars - Please help!
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Duncan Hodge
Member From: DeLand, FL USA
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posted 19 November 2005 05:25 PM
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Yes Russ, I am truly a blessed man. Not only don't I have to mow the backyard, It's full of bass to boot.
Duncan |
Bob Hamilton
Member From: Atascadero, California, USA
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posted 19 November 2005 06:22 PM
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Hey Duncan, now that you have your baby back, sell me the blue one. You don't really need two ZB's........... |
Duncan Hodge
Member From: DeLand, FL USA
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posted 19 November 2005 07:38 PM
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Uh...Bob...I kinda think I need about three, but I'll have to satisfy myself with two. Anyway, I'm planning on major renovations on the blue one. I'll be adding white fretboards and changing the setup signifcantly. Before I'm through, I'll probably jump out a window. If you want, though I'll make provisions in my will for it to be transferred to you in the event of my demise.
Duncan |
Bob Hamilton
Member From: Atascadero, California, USA
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posted 20 November 2005 03:12 AM
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Duncan, give me a call before you jump, I love a good project......... |
Duncan Hodge
Member From: DeLand, FL USA
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posted 20 November 2005 07:19 AM
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Actually, Bob, the blue one is in great shape as it is. I'm just planning on messing around with it for funsies. I have a strange idea of what is fun. I'll let you know, though, before I jump.
Duncan |
Bob Hamilton
Member From: Atascadero, California, USA
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posted 20 November 2005 03:04 PM
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Thanks Duncan, I am willing to bet you'll never SELL another ZB. I really should try to find an S-10 anyway......anybody got a basket case S-10 out there? |
tom anderson
Member From: leawood, ks., usa
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posted 24 November 2005 08:57 AM
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I am trying to add 3 knee levers to my D-10 & have talked to Greg Jones about it. He has been very nice & helpful, but it has been 8 months & he has obviously been to busy to get to me yet. Is there anyone else who can get me parts or do this addition, or am I best off to continue to wait. I find I don't play the guitar that much without those knee levers. Thanks, Tom |
Duncan Hodge
Member From: DeLand, FL USA
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posted 24 November 2005 07:10 PM
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To all my ZB brothers and sisters, I guess there a few sisters who play this fine instrument, I wish you all Happy Thanksgivings. I am thankful for all the assistance and guidance you folks have given me over the past year. I am also very thankful for the two ZBs that arrived at my door since last Thanksgiving. Greg and Andrew, I thank you.
Not to be too cheesy, but have Z-Best Thanksgiving.
Duncan |
Jim Park
Member From: CARSON CITY, NV US
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posted 27 November 2005 09:06 AM
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I can't believe this.......... I sat down and read this ENTIRE thread last night, then went out to find some entertainment,(NO luck)...... ate, then came home(I can hear the remarks, cut to the chase)......anyway I had this dream about having to play Jerry Garcia in a movie and not getting the part, NOT because I didn't LOOK like Jerry, but becuse I didn't have a ZB steel guitar!! was it the food??? holy cow.....am I going to have to buy a ZB?? OHH Man this is bad..... I'm already thinking about buying an old fender 400 ....now this .....sheesh, ohh well..... by the way, its a GREAT thread Jim Park |
Chris Erbacher
Member From: Sausalito, California, USA
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posted 27 November 2005 12:02 PM
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okay i'm going to preface this post before i get into it by saying this is sort of out there. anyway, i have had dreams with garcia in them where we were talking about steel and different stuff relating to it, even discussing the webb amp that i at the time had bought. there is only one steel that sounds like "Teach Your Children"... |
Russ Tkac
Member From: Waterford, Michigan, USA
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posted 27 November 2005 03:18 PM
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You guys should write a book..."Jerry in Wonderland!" I think you better cool the mushrooms!  ZB's are great! |
Duncan Hodge
Member From: DeLand, FL USA
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posted 27 November 2005 05:13 PM
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C'mon Jim. Just take the plunge and get a ZB. You know that you want one. This is coming from a former other well known and respected brand that shall remain untold owner, there is no other sound, unless you want the Emmons sound, then you should get an emmons. BTW Kevin Hatton has one for sale as we speak. Then you can look as happy as this man
Duncan
[This message was edited by Duncan Hodge on 27 November 2005 at 06:52 PM.] |
Pat Kelly
Member From: Wentworthville, New South Wales, Australia
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posted 28 November 2005 01:26 AM
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I am only making very modest progress learning steel but these posts sure make me feel good about my ZB. Whenever I feel I'm not making progress, I just open up this post and get some revitalisation tonic.Pat Kelly |
Kevin Hatton
Member From: Amherst, N.Y.
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posted 28 November 2005 10:40 AM
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There is nothing like the ZB sound. Great recording guitars. |
Brendan Mitchell
Member From: Melbourne Australia
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posted 28 November 2005 11:52 AM
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A small tip : I was missing one of the tone / volume knobs from my D10 and was thinking I would never get a replacement but I rekon they are the same knobs as on a Fender Jazz bass which are readily available.I still haven't got around to replacing mine but one of these days...........
Regards Brendan |
tom anderson
Member From: leawood, ks., usa
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posted 01 December 2005 08:31 PM
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Anyone know where Jerry Garcia's ZB D-10 is? I was doing a Google search & came up with an interview with Peter Grant at the time of Jerry's death who said that Jerry gave it to him years earlier & he had been recording & playing it ever since. Sounds like he was part of the Dead's family. |
Ben Elder
Member From: La Crescenta, California, USA
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posted 01 December 2005 09:47 PM
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I think most ZB-thread regulars know.(Pete?...) |
Russ Tkac
Member From: Waterford, Michigan, USA
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posted 02 December 2005 04:51 AM
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Page 15 4th reply. |
Kevin Hatton
Member From: Amherst, N.Y.
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posted 11 December 2005 01:05 AM
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I just took serial # 1107 Black Beauty out tonight on its first job since restoration. Its a killer. Its dead accurate and has lots of sizzling overtones. I had two separate comments by visiting musicians on the tone. These ZB's are amazing. Played through my Webb with an RV-3. |
Pat Kelly
Member From: Wentworthville, New South Wales, Australia
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posted 16 December 2005 07:25 AM
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"You guys should write a book"We are Russ. Just waiting for larry to get the proof off to the publisher. 
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Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 16 December 2005 07:35 AM
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Actually, this thread is turning into something of a book... (; G'day, Pat Kelly - hope your fire engine red ZB is keeping you smiling down under.900 posts, and a whopping 23 pages. Sheesh, do you folks like your ZBs, or what? Thanks for your continuing posts, everyone. The book project is still happening, but I've been super-busy with work and life (and practicing steel, of course). Another new year's resolution on the way. 2006 will be the year of the ZB book! And thanks, bOb, for keeping this thread (and the gig of memory it requires) alive and kickin'. Some lovely ZBs in the For Sale section right now, too. No, I'm not selling mine... (: All ZBest during this very festive season.
LC ------------------
Larry Chung
'67 ZB D-10 8+4 (ser. #1077)
'69 ZB S-10 3+4 (ser. #0124)
'70 ZB D-10 8+4 (ser.# 0215)
'71 ZB Custom S-11 4+4 (ser. #0252) [This message was edited by Larry Chung on 16 December 2005 at 07:37 AM.] [This message was edited by Larry Chung on 16 December 2005 at 07:49 AM.]
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Roger Rettig
Member From: NAPLES, FL
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posted 17 December 2005 04:44 AM
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Hi, LarryThanks for your e-mail re: ZB strings. I did reply, but I see that delivery of my e-mail has been 'delayed'. I only have a handful of nickel-wound ZB strings (with the Phoenix, AZ address on them (I'd thought there were more, but I must have used some over the years), but you're welcome to them. Let me have your street address and I'll pop them in the mail. Best, Roger R. |
Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 17 December 2005 08:55 AM
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Hi Roger:Thanks so much for the strings. I'll be sure to include them in the book-in-progress. I know there were also ZB amplifiers (never seen one), volume pedal (own one), and maybe even a ZB effect box or two (never seen one)? If anyone out there has a photo of these, please do send them along. Hey Kevin: too bad about the amp. I guess making great guitars was Zane's thing. Maybe not so much with the amps. Thanks in advance for the amp photos. All ZBest!
Larry[This message was edited by Larry Chung on 17 December 2005 at 12:26 PM.] |
Kevin Hatton
Member From: Amherst, N.Y.
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posted 17 December 2005 11:52 AM
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I have a ZB amplifier from the seventies. Its a real dog and breaks up at medium volumes. Its in perfect condition. Larry, I'll send you some pictures. |
Troy Porter
Member From: Globe AZ USA
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posted 17 December 2005 06:00 PM
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Hi Larry, I got my ZB in 65 and always thought it was #1017 but a friend said he saw a post somewhere and it stated that mine was #1019. I sold the guitar several years ago but would like to know if it was #1019. It was a deep red, almost wine color with lots of beautiful birdseye. Is there any way to find out if the guitar is still around and who might own it now?Thanks Troy |
Lyle Clary
Member From: Decatur, Illinois, USA
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posted 17 December 2005 07:12 PM
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Larry brought up the question of the many gigs of memory that these many pages require. How about tossing b0b an extra five or ten dollar bill at years end. I am sure he will be tickled to receive them.------------------
1969 ZB Custom D10, BMI S10, 1981 Peavy Musician Mark III, 15 Inch Black Widow, custom enclosure
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Lyle Clary
Member From: Decatur, Illinois, USA
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posted 17 December 2005 07:14 PM
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Larry brought up the question of the many gigs of memory that these many pages require. How about tossing b0b an extra five or ten dollar bill at years end. I am sure he will be tickled to receive them.------------------
1969 ZB Custom D10, BMI S10, 1981 Peavy Musician Mark III, 15 Inch Black Widow, custom enclosure
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Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 17 December 2005 08:47 PM
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Hi Lyle:What a wonderful idea. b0b, my Palpal donation is on the way, and I encourage all of you ZB enthusiasts to do the same. It's the least I can do for this most excellent group of online steel enthusiasts. All ZBest,
Larry |
Lyle Clary
Member From: Decatur, Illinois, USA
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posted 19 December 2005 08:56 AM
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Larry, I have a ZB volume control. It came new with the ZB Custom D10 35 years ago. I still use it and have only changed the pot about 4 times. I think the one I have in there now is an industrial grade .5 meg Allen-Bradley that a friend acquired from a local Caterpillar Tractor factory. I remember I had to cut the shaft down and file a flat on it to match the nylon gear. While a lot of volume controls required a string under tension, Zane I guess developed this method of rack and pinion.------------------
1969 ZB Custom D10, BMI S10, 1981 Peavy Musician Mark III, 15 Inch Black Widow, custom enclosure
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Joe Shelby
Member From: Walnut Creek, California, USA
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posted 20 December 2005 11:02 PM
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Just a note on the ZB amps. They were apparently (at least some, if not all)
made by Standel.
I never played through one, but did hear Big
Jim Murphy playing a Sho-Bud through one at
the Great American Music Hall in SF in either
1975 or 1976 with Vassar Clements.Not a steel
sound-friendly room (from past experience as
a player and listener). Big Jim got gorgeous
tone out of that setup, as I 'spose he would
have out of anything. I think that's about the only time I've heard someone use a ZB amp
but thought at the time, if I find one, I'll
buy it...(No, I don't want one now).Joe. |
Chuck McGill
Member From: Jackson, Tn
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posted 21 December 2005 05:04 AM
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I have a couple of pics on my website of my
ZBs. The 67 Scranton and the 67 12str with the wrong logo and finger board. http://www.bandstandinc.com
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Dave Zirbel
Member From: Sebastopol, CA USA
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posted 21 December 2005 06:15 AM
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JD Maness said he used a ZB amp on tons of sessions back in the day. Do a forum search and maybe you'll find the thread.DZ |
Kevin Hatton
Member From: Amherst, N.Y.
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posted 21 December 2005 09:23 AM
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Joe, the Standel amps were good amps. ZB later had Risson Amplifiers build their amps. They were full of problems and real dogs. As mentioned above I have one. The preamps were pretty bad. Alot of distortion. |
Russ Tkac
Member From: Waterford, Michigan, USA
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posted 23 December 2005 05:44 AM
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ZB S-10 on ebay. Look like it needs work.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ZB-Z-B-CUSTOM-BECK-5-PEDAL-STEEL-GUITAR-10-STRINGS_W0QQitemZ7376853867 |
Dave Van Allen
Member From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth
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posted 23 December 2005 06:46 AM
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looks like maybe it used to be blue?... someone offset the fretboard toward the back of the guitar maybe it's just the residual glue..... yikes, poor baby!!! still with some TLC it could live again.... |
John Rutledge
Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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posted 24 December 2005 07:04 PM
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I haven't been on in a while, But to day I was at my daughters house, watching home movies. I had forgotten about the movies I took inside the Z.B. factory in Bakersfield. Tom Brumley was there checking ont the steels. Anyway the whole room was full of new steels. they sure did look good.
anyway everone have a Mary Chirstmas.
John |
Chris Erbacher
Member From: Sausalito, California, USA
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posted 25 December 2005 03:22 PM
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john, i'd be really interested in seeing that home movie of the inside of the factory, i'm sure a lot of the rest of us zb fanatics would be interested too. any chance of you putting them up for us to see? it would make an excellent zb christmas gift...if not, maybe you would care to elaborate on what kinds of stuff is on the tape...merry christmas!!! |
Kevin Hatton
Member From: Amherst, N.Y.
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posted 25 December 2005 09:31 PM
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John, I second that motion. We would all be interested in seeing those movie clips on line being as fanatic as we are about ZB guitars and their history. Would you do it? |
Alan Harrison
Member From: Murfreesboro Tennessee, USA
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posted 26 December 2005 09:27 AM
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My first pro model steel was a beautiful red front and rear, clear top, birds eye maple D-10 with eight floor and five knee levers. I bought it slightly used in 1971 from Larry Petre in Bakersfield, CA, where Bev and I were living at the time. I I played it for a few years and sold it to a man in Delano, California. Tom Brumley told me he thought it was the last unit built in Bakersfield before they moved to Arizona. Sorry I don't have the serial number. I have many fond memories of this guitar and wish I had kept it. ------------------
Emmons LeGrande II D-10, 8 & 5, Willy D-10, 8 & 8 two Peavey 112's, Profex II and Hilton Pedal.
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Alan Harrison
Member From: Murfreesboro Tennessee, USA
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posted 26 December 2005 09:37 AM
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My first pro model steel was a beautiful red front and rear, clear top, birds eye maple D-10 ZB with eight floor and five knee levers. I bought it slightly used in 1972 from Larry Petre in Bakersfield, CA, where Bev and I were living at the time. I played it for a few years and sold it to a man in Delano, California. Tom Brumley told me he thought it was the last unit built in Bakersfield before they moved to Arizona. Sorry I don't have the serial number. I have many fond memories of this guitar and wish I had kept it. I do have some photos. ------------------
Emmons LeGrande II D-10, 8 & 5, Willy D-10, 8 & 8 two Peavey 112's, Profex II and Hilton Pedal.
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