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Topic: ZB Pedal Steel Guitars - Please help!
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John Davis
Member From: Cambridge, U.K.
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posted 14 October 2003 01:18 PM
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Hey you guys! I finally got the knee levers sorted on my ZEEBEE D10 0506 You will all be pleased that I will no longer be bitching about knee levers as I now have a guitar that is a pleasure to play! and if any of you are this side of the pond and your steel falls in half I would strongly recommend MR. John White from Eastleigh in Hampshire UK for the repair job
ZB now ZBest!!!!!1 |
Damir Besic
Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 18 October 2003 06:23 PM
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just tought I could post the 241st reply on here,seems like this thread has been around since Forum first started...  ------------------
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Dave Van Allen
Member From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth
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posted 18 October 2003 10:40 PM
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naw Damir- thread's only a smidgen under a year old...Just to stay on topic;
Let us not forget that ZB stands for Zane Beck, and man did he ever design a great pedal steel! I took the old D10 out for a romp last weekend in Chestertown MD, a small listening club called Andy's... I Love My ZB!  (I love my Zum too... does that make me a ZBigamist?) |
HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 19 October 2003 06:54 AM
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Dave, do you know what the punishment is for polygamy?Two wives! That joke doesn't work for ZBs though. |
Brad Sarno
Member From: St. Louis, MO USA
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posted 19 October 2003 06:00 PM
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I've played about 5 gigs now on my S-10 ZB. It's really gettin dialed in now. Great sounding and feeling guitar. My push-pulls are getting jealous. ZB into a Twin w/BW. Yup! ------------------
Brad Sarno
Blue Jade Audio Mastering
St. Louis
http://home.earthlink.net/~bradsarno/
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HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 20 October 2003 06:22 PM
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Zis may be of interezt to zome;
http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2566298879&category=308 now you zee it, and zoon, you won't..... ok, it's late, gotta catch some zzzzz's  |
Chris Erbacher
Member From: Sausalito, California, USA
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posted 20 October 2003 07:46 PM
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hey larry, looks like your old student model is up for sale on ebay. i caught your set at hardly strictly and thought you sounded great. hope things are going well for you as i haven't talked to you in a while, and if there is any way you could send me your address again via email i have something to send to you. i'm digging my zb and sort of getting used to lugging it all over, finally got some wheels on the bottom of my case, wheels are it!! |
Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 20 October 2003 07:55 PM
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Hey Chris:Thanks for the kind words. We had a great time in Golden Gate Park and we had just gotten off the plane from IBMA (International Bluegrass Music Association) festival in Louisville, KY, about 12 hours before! Did you see the steel player after our set? He was goooooooooood! The ZB for sale on Ebay is not mine, has too many knee levers! (: Mine has one lever and I sold it to a steel student in the East Bay. My friend in San Jose just picked up a D-10. THERE ARE ZBs EVERYWHERE!!! Yikes! ZBest,
larry
Hope you're playing well and having fun!!![This message was edited by Larry Chung on 05 January 2011 at 10:41 AM.]
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richard burton
Member From: Britain
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posted 20 October 2003 10:14 PM
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I had a ZB student similar to that one at one time. Nice tone, but terrible cabinet drop, which I attribute to the all wood construction of the top, including the mounting for the tuning keys. |
Chris Erbacher
Member From: Sausalito, California, USA
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posted 22 October 2003 02:14 AM
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i didn't happen to catch the steel player as i as trapped in the sea of people awaiting willie's show. i am playing a lot and finally getting more of the hang of it, i am in love with the zb sound man, i don't know why more guys don't play them, but i guess that is the little secret, shhhh. i'm very thankful there are guys in zb land that love steel enough to let a total newbie sit at one and get him hooked like i am, thanks man. if you ever run across a s-10 zb let me know, the d-10 is a little heavey to lug back and forth all the time and a little lighter load would be nice, but all the effort pays off in the end. zb's rule. |
Dave Zirbel
Member From: Sebastopol, CA USA
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posted 22 October 2003 07:50 AM
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Larry, Who and where did you play at the Strictly Bluegrass Fest?On the Hardly Strictly stage there were a bunch of steelers. John Mitguard with his MullenS-12, David Phillips with his Exel S-14, Chris Ivey with his D-10 Zum, Billy Wilson with a D-8 Rick, and myself with Bg Red(D-10 Bud). It was almost a convention! I didn't see or hear any other steelers on the other stages. Were there any? Dave |
Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 22 October 2003 08:22 AM
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Thanks, Chris, for the very kind words. It's kinda funny, actually, but several of the folks I've given lessons to have switched to ZBs... I'm delighted to hear that you're doing so well - the pedal steel guitar needs to be taken into the future of music whatever style or sound or players. (With ZBs, of course) (;Hey Dave - dagnabbit, I knew there would be a whole lotta steels at Hardly Strictly. I saw Mr.Phillips - wow! - and then had to run off to teach a kids fiddle workshop in San Jose. My acoustic band Cabin Fever played at noon on the Strictly Hardly Stage on Sunday. We just updated our website, where you can see our pretty pictures! www.cabinfeverbluegrass.com Let's meet sometime and talk about triple coil pickups, Roman fretboard markers, and tone, tone, tone! Next time you're in SF, please let me know. ZBest,
lc |
Dave Zirbel
Member From: Sebastopol, CA USA
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posted 22 October 2003 10:10 AM
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I'm at the El Rio in SF this Saturday but I won't have the ZB. I'm playing with two of the three acts. Let me know if you want to swing by and maybe I can get you and a guest on the guest list.DZ[This message was edited by Dave Zirbel on 22 October 2003 at 10:28 AM.] |
Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 22 October 2003 12:08 PM
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Dagnabbit, Dave - I'm gonna be up in Red Bluff at the Western Open Fiddle Contest playing backup guitar all this weekend...El Rio is just up the street from me, as I live in the Outer Mission/Bernal Heights. So close, and yet so far... (: Let me know THE NEXT time you're around - have you got a steady at El Rio? - and you can always stop by and play my ZB S-11 4+4 or my old 66' ZB D-10. |
Dave Zirbel
Member From: Sebastopol, CA USA
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posted 22 October 2003 02:33 PM
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Bummer Larry. Maybe next time. I don't have a steady gig at the El Rio but I play there almost once a month it seems. I have some shows in the city coming up. Check it out.
http://hometown.aol.com/zirbman/myhomepage/newsletter.html Maybe I can leave early to one of my shows and check out your ZBs! Dave |
Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 29 October 2003 11:27 PM
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ZBump!Great to hear from Pete Grant (Hi, Pete!) on the Steel Players post - he's got Jerry Garcia's old Scranton-made ZB and it sounds fantastic. Did I mention that he's a fantastic player and a great teacher, too!?! Best,
lc |
Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 06 November 2003 07:09 AM
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ZBump! |
Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 12 November 2003 03:53 PM
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Just like seeing consecutive ZB posts on the Forum. (:Had a gentleman from Norway just write about ZBs, too! lc |
Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 17 November 2003 11:14 AM
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Ever been interested or curious in ZB Guitars? Read this post - but give yourself some time!I've gotten a bunch of photos from folks from all over the world, and I would love to post a few every so often - can someone please let me know how that can happen? I was always taught to share... (: ZBump and All ZBest,
larry ------------------
Larry Chung
ZB D-10 8+4
ZB Custom S-11 4+4 Dekley S-10 3+4
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Dave Van Allen
Member From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth
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posted 17 November 2003 11:47 AM
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Larry- please check your e mail |
HowardR
Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.
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posted 17 November 2003 12:49 PM
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Larry, this evening I will send you a detailed email as to how you can post your photos. |
Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 17 November 2003 01:13 PM
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Thanks, Howard and Dave-
Looking forward to sharing what I've gotten from y'all.
ZBest! |
Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 30 November 2003 08:54 AM
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ZBump!Just cleaning the turkey and gravy from the top of my ZB. Time to get back to practicing! Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving full of music and good cheer! lc |
Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 08 December 2003 07:37 AM
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ZeeBee. ZeeBump! |
Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 17 December 2003 07:49 AM
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Should have some time over the holidays to post some ZB photos from my research and also send some over photos to the proposed sites above!ZeeBest,
lc |
Bob Mainwaring
Member From: Qualicum Beach Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
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posted 23 December 2003 12:47 AM
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Just as a little aside Larry, do you or anyone out there know if the guy Eric Snowdon still exists in London U.K. who "brought" Z.Bs into the U.K. in the early 70s and if so has any numbers been kept regarding amounts/types/models etc..?
I find it strange that my SD10 and D10 are not many numbers away from each other.Bob Mainwaring. Z.Bs. and other weird things. |
John Davis
Member From: Cambridge, U.K.
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posted 23 December 2003 09:58 AM
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Hey Bob, further to my email to you, The Guys name is Eric Snowball, and yes he still has the music shop in Upper Fant Road, Maidestone, Kent UK. Its a bit smaller now as he no longer has the other shop and no longer does very much with steels, last time I went in there ,the only steel was his own personal one ( I think an Emmons loafer)I will never forget his sales pitch to me well over thirty years ago it went "Give us your money and F@$% off !!!!" I think he has always had a serious attitude problem, and would certainly not hold any hope of getting information from him.
I doubt he would have sold hardly any of those steels without the help of the late
Gordon Huntley and his amazing ability to demonstrate the guitars.
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Bob Mainwaring
Member From: Qualicum Beach Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
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posted 24 December 2003 12:04 AM
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Guys - like I may have said in another thread, there were lots of Z.Bs kicking around the U.K.at one time - mainly 11 stringers as far as I know, in fact most of the guys that saw mine wondered as to where the other string went to!!
Hope you won't regret getting rid of yours John - they're only here once.Bob Mainwaring. Z.Bs. and other weird things. |
Matt Dawson
Member From: Luxembourg, Europe
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posted 24 December 2003 07:13 AM
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I just sold my ZB 11 string through Hogan music in the UK and guess who bought it?
Al Perkins! I guess he wants a guitar to keep in the UK.
Matt |
Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 24 December 2003 08:07 AM
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Hello Bob, John, and Matt!Happy Holidays to you all - thanks for the ZB info, too. I've tried contacting Eric Snowball several times with no response from him, but did reach a couple of other ZB owners in the UK. He's still around, just unresponsive... As far as Al Perkins in concerned... Yaaaaaaaaaah! I always wondered if he was still playing a ZB. Now, I know! ZBest!
Larry |
Matt Dawson
Member From: Luxembourg, Europe
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posted 24 December 2003 08:17 AM
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When I did my tribute site to Gordon Huntley I emailed Eric Snowball for memories of Gordon but he did not reply.
http://webplaza.pt.lu/dawson/tribute.htm
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Dave Zirbel
Member From: Sebastopol, CA USA
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posted 24 December 2003 08:55 AM
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When I was on vacation in Arizona at 7 years back, I stopped by Deno Music in Casa Grande and the guitar tech had Bud Isaacs single neck ZB on the bench. Bud lives (or lived) in Yuma. From what I remember it was one of the early ones made in Arkansas. Is Bud still around?Larry, I finally sent my 1969 Bakersfield ZB D-10 to Greg Jones for a COMPLETE restoration. I'll be bringing it to SF for some shows. I can hardly wait!! Happy Holidays everyone Dave Zirbel
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Bob Mainwaring
Member From: Qualicum Beach Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
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posted 24 December 2003 09:09 AM
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Matt, Many thanks for the info and fabulous link.
All this was when I was trying to play steel licks on a "Freemans Catalogue" plank with a local bunch of characters in and around the Manchester area.
Our local hero was a guy called Harry Greenwood who used to build steel guitars and wanted a Z.B. (which I finaly bought from him) to copy some of the aspects from.
Sadly he passed away around 1990.Bob Mainwaring Z.Bs. and other weird things. |
Brad Sarno
Member From: St. Louis, MO USA
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posted 27 December 2003 04:46 PM
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Well I just got my knee lever kit from Alan Douglass. Man this guy is great. He worked at ZB for a long time and from my photos he gave me a very detailed history of the evolution of the my guitar and it's design and parts. He concurred that my S-10 is a '73. It had only 3 knees when I got it. Alan made me a beautiful new 4th lever from scratch, gave me 2 pullrod/turnbuckle assemblies, 2 new equalizers, cross shaft, changer axle, and all other little parts needed. I moved my RKL to a better location 1" right of where it was. Added the LKR from Alan, and now it's got my copedant. What a great Christmas present to have my ZB set up how I always wanted it! Yee-Haa!(Hey Kevin, the ZB thru the Webb is pretty awesome sounding.) Brad Sarno[This message was edited by Brad Sarno on 27 December 2003 at 05:11 PM.] |
Brad Sarno
Member From: St. Louis, MO USA
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posted 27 December 2003 05:09 PM
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oops, duplicate post[This message was edited by Brad Sarno on 27 December 2003 at 05:09 PM.] |
Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 27 December 2003 09:44 PM
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Hey Dave, Hey Brad, Hey Bob:Happy Holidays and Happy Gollydays! (Gomer Pyle's Happy Days!) I had a chance to play out with both my D-10 and S-11 over the past week and dagnabbit if they don't just sound awesome!!! My D-10 is just HUGE and sounds unbelievably clear and mellow, and my S-11 has a whole lot of Ralph Mooney in it - lots of depth, but also very clean and with good bite, but also strangely and beautifully full and mellow. Mmmmmmmm. Greg, you out there? How do I get bits of ham and baked potato out from under my knee levers? (: ZBest and Zee Happy New Year to all.
larry ------------------
Larry Chung
ZB D-10 8+4
ZB Custom S-11 4+4 Dekley S-10 3+4
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Bob Mainwaring
Member From: Qualicum Beach Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
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posted 27 December 2003 10:18 PM
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Hey all you guys out there in Z.B. Land.......All the "Very Best" for 2004 and hope that all your wishes come true......now if only that darned 3rd string could keep in one piece.......mutter....mutter........... Bob Mainwaring. Z.Bs. and liking 'em.  |
Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 02 January 2004 09:55 AM
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Attention ALL ZB players (and BMI players, too):Happy New Year! AND - please be sure to check out Winnie Winston's steel guitar page at http://www.julianwinston.com He has a great recent topic in this Pedal Steel section of the Forum. There you will find an EXCELLENT description and explanation of the Kline guitar, whose mechanisms are very, very similar to ZBs and BMIs. I highly recommend it. AND a huge thanks to Winnie Winston for a great instruction book (along with Bill Keith) and a great new website with lots of great stories and information. Happy New Year and all ZBest. Larry ------------------
Larry Chung
ZB D-10 8+4
ZB Custom S-11 4+4 Dekley S-10 3+4
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Larry Chung
Member From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 07 January 2004 04:18 PM
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Nice link to some ZB pics from Brad Sarno on another page in this section of the Forum!I'm up to about 80 guitars so far on my list. Be sure to send along ZB info if you have it - serial numbers, photos, stories of Zane and all things Zaney. ZBest!
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Kevin Hatton
Member From: Amherst, N.Y.
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posted 07 January 2004 06:10 PM
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Larry, when are we going to get to see "the list" and some pictures? I'm looking forward to it.
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